[Wp4] WP4 Deliverable: Elaborating an ICANN Commitment to Human RIghts

Dr Eberhard W Lisse el at lisse.NA
Fri Nov 6 09:20:12 UTC 2015


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We have been through this before.

ICANN must respect human rights.

Period.

No watering down.

No deferring for ever and a day (until the cows come down, ad kalendas
Graecas, or for the eco members: Sankt Nimmerleinstag).


This is a show stopper for me.

el

On 2015-11-06 07:57, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I think the text now clearly sets out the difference between
> respect and protect, which is both reflected in the analysis and in
> the bylaw text.
> 
> The framework for interpretation and implementation (there are
> many different ways to do this, it is not black or white) is to be 
> developed after WS1 (as is also extensively elaborated in the
> document).
> 
> So I am also a bit unclear about the critique of the proposed
> text.
> 
> If you have corrections which can make to text clearer or improve
> it, for which we can find consensus, I am sure everyone would
> appreciate it a lot.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Niels
> 
> On 11/05/2015 03:43 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>> My view on this is:
> 
>> Either someone respects human rights or one doesn't.
> 
>> But to say one respects them and then say "but when we don't, go 
>> talk to Isaac"[1], is not right.
> 
> 
>> greetings, el
> 
>> [1] A variation of the reference to Arkell v Presdramm (1971, 
>> unreported) pertaining to the Manager of a particular ccTLD.
> 
> 
>> On 2015-11-05 16:26, Nigel Roberts wrote:
>>> I'm fine with the first sentence.
>>> 
>>> It's the subsequent qualifiers that could easily be
>>> interpreted to mean ICANN can ignore it in practice that seem
>>> problematic to me.
>>> 
>>> But no doubt others are better at expressing this than I.
>>> 
>>> On 05/11/15 14:15, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>>> Our very first sentence says that ICANN will respect Human 
>>>> RIghts.  Still not seeing the issue.
>>>> 
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