[Wp4] WP4 Deliverable: Elaborating an ICANN Commitment to Human RIghts

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

Well that is what the first line says.

The second two paragraphs are the wiggle words people have insisted on
as a price for allowing the first sentence in.

> /W//i//t//hin itsmission and initsoperations, ICANNwill
> respectinternationallyrecognized humanrights./
>

I would be happier with just that sentence, but if the wiggle words of
the second two paragraphs are the necessary price we have to pay  to get
the one important sentence in, i can live with them.

avri


On 06-Nov-15 20:26, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> Dear Eberhard, > > That's exactly what the text says. Am not sure what is a
showstopper for you. > > Best, > > Niels > > > On 6 November 2015
07:20:12 GMT-02:00, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote: >
> We have been through this before.
>
> ICANN must respect human rights.
>
> Period.
>
> No watering down.
>
> No deferring for ever and a day (until the cows come down, ad kalendas
> Graecas, or for the eco members: Sankt Nimmerleinstag).
>
>
> This is a show stopper for me.
>
> el
>
> On 2015-11-06 07:57, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>
>      Dear all,
>      
>      I think the text now clearly sets out the difference between
>      respect and protect, which is both reflected in the analysis and in
>      the bylaw text.
>      
>      The framework for interpretation and implementation (there are
>      many different ways to do this, it is not black or white) is to be
>      developed after WS1 (as is also extensively elaborated in the!
>      
>
>     document).
>      
>      So I am also a bit unclear about the critique of the proposed
>      text.
>      
>      If you have corrections which can make to text clearer or improve
>      it, for which we can find consensus, I am sure everyone would
>      appreciate it a lot.
>      
>      Best,
>      
>      Niels
>      
>      On 11/05/2015 03:43 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>
>          My view on this is:
>
>      
>
>          Either someone respects human rights or one doesn't.
>
>      
>
>          But to say one respects them and then say "but when we don't, go
>          talk to Isaac"[1], is not right.
>
>      
>     !
>       
>
>          greetings, el
>
>      
>
>          [1] A variation of the reference to Arkell v Presdramm (1971,
>          unreported) pertaining to the Manager of a particular ccTLD.
>
>      
>      
>
>          On 2015-11-05 16:26, Nigel Roberts wrote:
>
>              I'm fine with the first sentence.
>              
>              It's the subsequent qualifiers that could easily be
>              interpreted to mean ICANN can ignore it in practice that seem
>              problematic to me.
>              
>              But no doubt others are better at expressing this than I.
>
>              On 05/11/15 14:15, Greg Shatan wrote:
>
>                  Our very first sentence says that ICANN will respect
> Human
>                  RIghts.  Still not seeing the issue.
>                  
>
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