[Ws2-jurisdiction] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting Scheduled for Wednesday 2 August 1300

Mon Jul 31 18:46:57 UTC 2017

Sir,
your comments is totally misleading.
Regards
Kavouss

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <
paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:

> Indeed, we should not have meetings on the national holiday of any
> nation.  Here is a helpful list for August: http://www.officeholidays.com/
> 2017/08.php
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> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-
> bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Kavouss Arasteh
> *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:12 PM
> *To:* Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <
> leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>; Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de>; Bernard
> Turcotte <turcotte.bernard at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* ACCT-Staff <acct-staff at icann.org>; ws2-jurisdiction <
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> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting
> Scheduled for Wednesday 2 August 1300
>
>
>
> Dear Bernard,
>
> It is a pity that SAM Unfortunately cannot join our Wednesday 2 August
> 1300 meeting but could participate on Tuesday 1 August 1300 to cover the
> topics of OFAC and Choice of Law from the ICANN perspective.
>
> However, tomorrow 01 August is the National Holiday in Switzerland and
> must be respected by all means. See Below
>
> The *Swiss National Day* is the national holiday
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day> of Switzerland
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland>, set on 1 August. *It has
> been an official national holiday since 1994 *, although the day had been
> used for the celebration of the foundation of the Swiss Confederacy for the
> first time in 1891, and then repeated annually since 1899.1]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Day#cite_note-1>
>
> The date is inspired by the date of the Federal Charter of 1291
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Charter_of_1291>, *Pacte du
> Grutli, *placed in "early August",[2]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Day#cite_note-2> *when
> "three Alpine cantons swore the oath of confederation" (Schwyz, Uri and
> Unterwald), *an action *which later came to be regarded as the foundation
> of Switzerland*."[3]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Day#cite_note-swissworld-3> *needed
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed>*]
>
> The Federal Charter of 1291 first assumed great importance in a report by
> the Federal Department of Home Affairs
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Department_of_Home_Affairs> of 21
> November 1889, suggesting a celebration in Bern
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bern> in 1891 that would combine the
> city's 700th anniversary with the Confederacy's 600th anniversary.[*citation
> needed <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed>*]
>
> I remember, we did not have any meeting on 4TH July as we respected the
> National Holiday of American.
>
> I therefore have serious difficulties to accept the shift of the meeting
> from 02 to 01 August disrespecting the national holiday of a respectful
> nation
>
> Pls move the meeting back to 02 August
>
> Regards
>
> Kavouss
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> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@
> redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
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> +1
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> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-
> bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Jordan Carter
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:39 PM
> *To:* Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* ACCT-Staff (acct-staff at icann.org) <acct-staff at icann.org>;
> ws2-jurisdiction <ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting
> Scheduled for Wednesday 2 August 1300
>
>
>
> Dear Kavouss, dear all,
>
>
>
> I would like to lend my support to the process that Greg has set out. It
> is important for the integrity of the CCWG's process that decisions about
> what work to request from ICANN are made by sub-groups as a whole or by the
> CCWG plenary.
>
>
>
> If the Jurisdiction group decides that the sort of written material being
> requested is required, then I am sure that ICANN will look favourably at
> that request and provide it as soon as possible.
>
>
> The written transcripts of the call will help make any verbal briefings
> and information available and easier to understand as well.
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> I look forward to hearing how the call goes.
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>
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> All bests,
>
> Jordan
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> On 31 July 2017 at 07:40, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Greg
>
> Thank you for reply.
>
> I know many people do not wish to react or act on OFAC as they would like
> that such unreasonable continued to be applied to some limited number of
> countries . You may not have any point to do that .
>
> Sam Eisner explanation MUST BE IN WRITTEN FORM as I have serious
> difficulties to understand her  message while she may speak very  well but
> I have difficulty to get the message  so I want an advance copy of her
> explanation before the meeting  .
>
> Pls note that I am not alone on the issue. If there are not other people
> at call that does not mean that I am alone.
>
> It seems that OFAC ISSUE WILL NOT BE TREATED since according to you there
> is no support for that. That is not what we expected from your Group.
>
> I know that there must be other motivation than technical and
> administrative that this question is rejected by you and your colleagues.
>
> However, this is an important issue and MUST be addressed .
>
> You can not ignore it even if there are few countries affected.
>
> I will not leave as such to be put at corner by you. I will insist and ask
> for a written documents
>
> There is no relation with state assets and DNS .There were and still there
> are other motivation to apply it and other motivation NOT to address it. I
> do not know what are those motivations.
>
> At any meeting you as a participants push and sushi for your points and
> taking considerable amount of time of the meeting since you have several
> supporters.
>
> Pls kindly reconsider your position and be a little bit helpful and not
> categorically object to my legitimate requiert .
>
> Tks for your kind attention and advice
>
> Kavouss
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Kavouss,
>
>
>
> I am responding to your various emails regarding your request that ICANN
> Legal be required to prepare a comprehensive "written history background
> Document" on OFAC and ICANN before meeting with the Jurisdiction Subgroup.
> As you know, Samantha Eisner from ICANN Legal is scheduled to meet with the
> Jurisdiction Subgroup on Tuesday, August 1 at 13:00.
>
>
>
> You suggested this course of action in the Jurisdiction Subgroup meeting
> on July 26.  There was no other support for this course of action in the
> Subgroup meeting.  At that time, I proposed that we would start by hearing
> from ICANN legal in the meeting and engaging in Q&A with ICANN.  The
> Subgroup would then be able to decide if we needed to ask ICANN further
> questions, if we wanted written responses, etc.  There was no opposition to
> this course of action, other than from yourself.  I believe this is all
> reflected in the transcript.
>
>
>
> I will note that, subsequent to the meeting, no one from the Subgroup has
> responded to your emails in support of your request.  In conjunction with
> the results in the Subgroup meeting, I believe it fair to conclude that
> there is not sufficient support for your request in the Subgroup.
>
>
>
> Therefore, we will proceed as agreed on the last call and documented in
> the transcript.  We will hear from ICANN Legal and ask questions. The
> Subgroup (and not any single participant) will then decide what, if any,
> follow-up is needed.
>
>
>
> After this email, I will send out an email to the list requesting
> questions for ICANN Legal, which we can provide them in advance of the
> call.  I hope that you will contribute to this effort.
>
>
>
> Please note that there are times when professional and personal
> obligations may prevent from responding to ICANN-related emails as quickly
> as I might wish.  As with all of my ICANN activities, I am acting as
> Rapporteur entirely on a volunteer basis, which is only possible if I meet
> my obligations to my employer and our clients, devote some time to my
> family, and attend to other responsibilities that may be pressing at any
> given time.
>
>
>
> I look forward to your continued contributions to the work of the
> Jurisdiction Subgroup.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Greg Shatan
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> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <
> kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Grec, I have no problem for moving that meeting by one day to Tuseday.
>
> But I insist that before the meeting we need a written history background
> Document as I have asked.
>
> I think this is absolutely necessary e to have a written doc. in addition
> to verbal explanation by SAM ,
>
> I do not understand why my e-mail has not been replied.
>
> Pls kindly explain.
>
> Herb is kindly requested to monitor the process as I will take the non
> reply formally to him and to the co-chairs that till now have not reacted
> even though I copied  my correspendenc to them as well
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
> wrote:
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> The time change is OK with me.
>
>
>
> Hopefully we can devote all of the call to Q&A on OFAC and choice of law
> and can dispense with the other stuff.
>
>
>
> We might also provide a channel for advance submission of questions so
> that the opportunity to ask questions is fairly distributed among different
> subgroup participants.
>
>
>
> Dr. Milton L. Mueller
>
> Professor, School of Public Policy
>
> Georgia Institute of Technology
>
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> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-
> bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Bernard Turcotte
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:26 PM
> *To:* ws2-jurisdiction <ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>; ACCT-Staff (
> acct-staff at icann.org) <acct-staff at icann.org>
> *Subject:* [Ws2-jurisdiction] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting
> Scheduled for Wednesday 2 August 1300
>
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> Unfortunately Sam Eisner cannot join our Wednesday 2 August 1300 meeting
> but could participate on Tuesday 1 August 1300 to cover the topics of OFAC
> and Choice of Law from the ICANN perspective.
>
>
>
> As such Greg is suggesting that we move our scheduled meeting to Tuesday 1
> August 1300 and cancel the Wednesday 2 August 1300 meeting.
>
>
>
> Please advise acct-staff at icann.org by 23:59 UTC 27 July if you have
> serious objections to this change of date.
>
>
>
> Greg will consider the responses and confirm his decision regarding this
> by the EOB tomorrow to allow everyone to plan accordingly.
>
>
>
> For Greg Shatan
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>
>
> Bernard Turcotte
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> ICANN Support Staff to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
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