[CCWG-Accountability] the term "community"

[Evan Leibovitch]

Well, then there is highly available content <http://icannwiki.com/NCUC>
out there to the contrary that needs to be fixed (which also indicates that
at one time that was indeed the case).

On 12 January 2015 at 05:20, Edward Morris <emorris at milk.toast.net> wrote:

> Actually, Evan, the Noncommercial Users Constituency does represent ALL
> users within the GNSO. Ownership of a domain name is NOT a prerequisite for
> NCUC membership. Per the NCUC Bylaws, section 111(h)(11) NCUC membership is
> open to:
>
> ii) An Individual Internet user who is primarily concerned with the
> public-interest aspects of domain name policy, and is not represented in
> ICANN through membership in another Supporting Organization or GNSO
> Stakeholder Group;
>
> Domain name ownership, again, is not required, contrary to your assertion.
> Hope this clarifies things a bit.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evan Leibovitch <evan
> > Consider the NCUC, which by its very name is intended to represent
> > "users"
> > within the GNSO. Ownership of at least one domain name is a
> > pre-requisite
> > of NCUC membership. So what constituency (that is, a full voting GNSO
> > component, as opposed to a non-voting advisory body) represents
> > non-domain-owning Internet "users".
> >
> >
> > > However you could also consider public  in this context to be all the
> > > people of the world.   Even people that don't directly use the
> > Internet as
> > > a communication mechanism are probably affected by it in some way.
> > >
> >
> > ​Indeed. But what say have they traditionally had within ICANN?
> >
> > Of course, there is the ALAC, which has a Bylaw mandate to speak for
> > end
> > users. But, the gap between speaking and being listened to has been,
> > while
> > slowly closing, still rather wide.
> >
> > I don't have to go far into the world to see a perception of ICANN as a
> > compact between domain sellers and domain buyers that considers only
> > their
> > interests, with general indifference to consequences beyond those two
> > groups. There has never, in the time I have been involved as a
> > volunteer
> > here, been any core conversation about the ethics of enabling
> > dictionary
> > words to be commoditized in a manner that goes well outside the bounds
> > of
> > trademark treaty. Other non-debated core values have not only led to
> > the
> > maximization of duplicate and defensive domains, but now seem to depend
> > upon them for some participants' business models; these fundamental
> > choices
> > clearly did not consider -- and certainly did not engage -- the broader
> > world.
> >
> >
> > > Its primary feedback mechanism for determining the global public
> > interest
> > > is the "ICANN community" described above.
> > >
> >
> > ​That's the theory.​
> >
> >
> > ​The ongoing (and recently escalating) friction between the ICANN
> > board and
> > its two "global public interest" Advisory Boards​ indicates that this
> > mechanism is not as effective as it should be.
>
>
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