[CCWG-ACCT] .Africa Preliminary Injunction
Nigel Roberts
nigel at channelisles.net
Wed Apr 13 18:10:48 UTC 2016
You miss the point of what the judge says.
He's says the Yedaly Declaration is self-serving. Which it is.
Or in other words, the Rice-Davies Principle applies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-Davies#.22He_would.2C_wouldn.27t_he.3F.22
On 13/04/16 19:00, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> We can disagree on this Milton, I never mentioned public interest in my
> statement! My views were derived from the buildup and not the final
> conclusion. Look at the second to the last paragraph of section D. I
> quote relevant part below:
>
> "....ICANN argues that a delay in delegating .Africa will prejudice the
> African community’s efforts
> to participate in the Internet economy and strengthen their technology
> sectors....",
>
> Then the court says:
>
> "....The AUC’s relationship with ZACR, and its interest in preventing
> the delay of issuing rights to .Africa creates a conflict of
> interest.Therefore, on this point, the
> Court accords little weight to the Yedaly Declaration ..."
>
> SO: The AUC supported ZACR (as part of the application requirement), I
> find it quite unfortunate that such further view from AUC would be found
> to create conflict of interest. If AUC did not write such, who else
> should do so; I mean which other source of interest from Africa will not
> form conflict in this matter?
>
> >
> "...On balance, the Court finds it more *prejudicial to
> the African community*....., if the delegation of .Africa is made...."
> >
> SO: That is the section that provoked my previous view and I still
> stand by it; Who is the US court to conclude that it will be harmful to
> Africa community even when the AUC is pushing otherwise. This process
> has just taken too long than necessary.
>
> Nevertheless, I will stop here and look forward to the outcome of the
> case filed by ICANN as indicated by Paul.
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On 13 Apr 2016 5:34 p.m., "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu
> <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
>
> Seun____
>
> The court does not make a ruling on the public interest of Africans.
> It makes a ruling on the right of DCA to obtain an injunction
> against ICANN to stop it from delegating the name. Its approach to
> the public interest in this case is that “the public has an interest
> in the fair and transparent application process that grants gTLD
> rights.” This pertains to ICANN globally, not to Africans
> specifically. ____
>
> __ __
>
> In other words, the court is not ruling about whether .Africa being
> run by DCA or the AUC is better, it is deciding that ICANN’s process
> for making the decision was unfair and biased.____
>
> __ __
>
> *From:*accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Seun Ojedeji
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:20 PM
> *To:* Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net
> <mailto:nigel at channelisles.net>>
> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] .Africa Preliminary Injunction____
>
> __ __
>
> Isn't it interesting that a US court is able to determine that
> delegating .Africa is harmful to Africa internet users even though
> AU affirms otherwise. ____
>
> Things like this is what makes some to always raise ICANN
> jurisdiction issue. Nevertheless, I will recognise the fact that any
> other jurisdiction court could also act in a similar manner.____
>
> That said, I had thought there would be indications on what date the
> next hearing will be (to ascertain the supposed fairness)____
>
> Regards
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos____
>
> On 13 Apr 2016 5:03 p.m., "Nigel Roberts" <nigel at channelisles.net
> <mailto:nigel at channelisles.net>> wrote:____
>
> The 'public interest' is exactly what it says.. The global public.
>
> He refers SPECIFICALLY to the African internet users' public
> interest in the judgment.
>
>
> As follows:____
>
> On balance, the Court finds it more prejudicial to
> the African community, and the international community in
> general, if the delegation of .Africa is made
> prior to a determination on the fairness of the process by
> which it was delegated.____
>
>
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