[CCWG-ACCT] Legal Committee and WS2 budget - new proposal

Robin Gross robin at ipjustice.org
Mon Jul 18 17:24:17 UTC 2016


I agree with Paul.  We need a process that is workable and efficient.  The last thing we need is a process that will repeat the quarrelsome and time-consuming exercise we just went through with even more administrative matters.  Let’s try to stay focused on the substance of what we are here to do and not get sucked into opportunities for endless argument on administrative issues that we had set up this committee to deal with previously.

Thanks,
Robin



> On Jul 18, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
> 
> With respect, I disagree.  The question of whether or not to seek advice is a ministerial one that can and should be left to the good judgment of the co-chairs and the committee members.   As we have seen in the last few days, the broader CCWG can get overwhelmed with disagreement on relatively inconsequential matters of process when for the most part our thinking and time are best devoted to substantive questions that require analysis and resolution
>  
> Cheers
> Paul
>  
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> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Seun Ojedeji
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> To: Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>
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> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Legal Committee and WS2 budget - new proposal
>  
> Hello Mathieu,
> 
> The attached document indicated that decision will be handled based on case by case basis which is fine. 
> 
> However I think sub-bullet 1 of item 2 on page 6 is not explicit about decision making process. I like to suggest that when independent council is required, the legal committee should rather recommend (not decide on behalf) to the group as it should be the decision of the CCWG-ACT to make. Such recommendation should also include adequate rationale on why external council is preferred over ICANN legal staff.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
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>  
> On 18 Jul 2016 5:10 p.m., "Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>> wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues, 
>>  
>> Based on the feedback received during last week’s call, as well as on the robust discussion on the list, we are suggesting a revised approach for the Legal Committee : 
>> -          Composition based on previous Legal executive team
>> 
>> -          Co-chairs remain budget owners, working with support from the PCST
>> 
>> -          Legal committee may direct requests to external firms, on a case by case assessment taking into account costs, skills as well as potential requirement for “independent” advice. 
>> 
>>  
>> We believe this strikes a good balance between the need to manage costs efficiently and responsibly, and the ability for our group to request independent advice when needed. 
>>  
>> Depending on the feedbacks, we will report on our progress to the Board Finance Committee and SO/AC leaders during a call that has been arranged at the BFC’s request on Monday 25 July. 
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> Mathieu Weill
>> Co-chair
>> 
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