[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting tomorrow - Minor corrections

Tue May 31 16:11:50 UTC 2016

To echo Thomas a bit - this is a proposal your cochairs and
rapporteurs have fleshed out with staff to identify the resources needed
for WS2 based on some assumptions about how the work will be done.

Today we can discuss how the work is done and the resources required. That
then will give everyone some clarity about the budget needed for next year.

Nothing is set in stone right now.

Cheers
Jordan

On Tuesday, 31 May 2016, Thomas Rickert <thomas at rickert.net> wrote:

> All,
> as I mentioned in my previous e-mail to the list, let us discuss the issue
> during the upcoming call. It is a bit unfortunate that there is so much
> suspicion.
>
> I am sure we will be able to put most, if not all, concerns at rest. Some
> will be disappointed that there are no evil forces at work.
>
> Talk to you in a few hours.
>
> Best,
> Thomas
>
>
>
> Am 31.05.2016 um 17:46 schrieb Paul Rosenzweig <
> paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
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> >:
>
> Why is anyone surprised that those holding the resources are going to
> constrain you?  It is in ICANN's corporate interest to limit outside
> review.
>
> If we were serious about the process we would ask ICANN for a top line #
> for
> how much it is willing to spend on the WS2 process and then WE would decide
> how to allocate it:  transcription; travel support; legal support;
> whatever.
> I have no real problem with ICANN setting an overall budget (subject, of
> course, to the new EC budget review powers).  But allocation and priority
> setting should be by the CCWG.
>
> Paul
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> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting
> tomorrow - Minor corrections
>
> Without commenting on the specifics of the issues (whether staff note
> taking
> or transcriptions or whatever), the entire discussion on costs started with
> us being told that we had exceeded our budget, a budget we were not aware
> of, did not know what it covered, and had absolutely no handle on what the
> costs were that were associated with it.
>
> I would have hoped that this time around, if we were making cost vs benefit
> decisions, we would not only be told the "decision", but also made aware of
> the specific costs that were being deemed to be too high and thus
> eliminated.
>
> VERY tiresome.
>
> Alan
>
> At 31/05/2016 04:02 AM, Nigel Roberts wrote:
>
> I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription.
>
> The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of
> non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional.
>
> But I'll really not surprised.
>
>
>
> On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:
>
> Hello Avri, everyone
>
> I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of
> the transcription.
> Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much
> better the argumentative process.
>
> I agree with your question and I joinv
>
> Kind regards
>
> Harold Arcos
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>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri at apc.org
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> <mailto:avri at apc.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','avri at apc.org');>>>
> wrote:
>
>    Hi,
>
>    I would like to question the non transcription decision.
>
>    Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for
>
> both
>
>    participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the
>    transcription is important.  It also helps those for whom English is
>
> not
>
>    a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying
>    accents and pronunciations.
>
>    avri
>
>
>    On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
>
> B.
>
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