[CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered by the ICANN staff

Christopher Wilkinson lists at christopherwilkinson.eu
Fri Sep 30 19:08:21 UTC 2016


And since everyone is joining in the fun…

ISO stands for the International Organisation for Standardisation,
which is, of course, not the International Standards Organisation!
(Perhaps those should have been spelt with a Z.)

;-))		CW

On 30 Sep 2016, at 19:43, Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net> wrote:

> Greg is right, GMT has gone domestic and is used in most of the UK in the winter. In the summer they uses British Summer Time (BST=UTC+1). 
> Coordinated Universal Time is a reference time and not a time zone. Why is it called UTC and not its acronym CUT? 
> That was the work of our friends at the ITU.  ITC is a compromise between the English CUT and the French TUC. 
> Good ITU has tasks to keep it busy. 
> 
> Sam
> 
> On 9/30/2016 9:09 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
>> 18:30 UTC.
>> 
>> On Friday, September 30, 2016, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
>> Depends what you mean by GMT (it's often misunderstood -- GMT and UTC are the same thing).
>> 
>> So you are technically correct (although we don't use the term GMT anymore except during the winter-time).
>> 
>> But GMT is NOT the same as "UK time" - that is "BST" right now.
>> 
>> So, if I understand this correctly, this will take place at 7:30 PM UK and Ireland time, and 8:30 PM in Central Europe.
>> 
>> On 30/09/16 12:51, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
>> Hearing in the case is scheduled for 130 PM Central Time (I think that is
>> GMT -5) today ….
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>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>> Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:06 PM
>> To: 'Jonathan Zuck' <JZuck at actonline.org>; Lori Schulman
>> <lschulman at inta.org>; 'Raoul Plommer' <plommer at gmail.com>; Martin Boyle
>> <martin.boyle at nominet.uk>
>> Cc: Accountability Cross Community
>> <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
>> 
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>> Continuing Resolution passed.  Lawsuit filed in Texas:
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>> https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/files/epress/Net_Complaint_-_FILED.pdf
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>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese
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>> Of Counsel
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>> From: Jonathan Zuck [mailto:JZuck at actonline.org]
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:24 PM
>> To: Lori Schulman; Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Raoul Plommer'; Martin Boyle
>> Cc: Accountability Cross Community
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
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>> Yes but things could still change.
>> 
>> Jonathan Zuck
>> President
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>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> > on behalf of
>> Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org <mailto:lschulman at inta.org> >
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:01:16 PM
>> To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Raoul Plommer'; Martin Boyle
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>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
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>> 
>> I saw a tweet from ISOC to that effect but I don’t have confirmation.
>> 
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>> Lori S. Schulman
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>> Senior Director, Internet Policy
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>> International Trademark Association (INTA)
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>> +1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman
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>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>> Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:48 PM
>> To: 'Raoul Plommer' <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com> >; Martin
>> Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk> >
>> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
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>> I heard the Rider preventing the IANA transition is OUT of the current
>> Continuing Resolution.  Can Steve or Becky confirm?
>> 
>> Anne
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>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese
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>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>
>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Raoul
>> Plommer
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:53 AM
>> To: Martin Boyle
>> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
>> 
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>> 
>> Milton, I'm glad to see there's now been lots of responses to Ted Cruz's
>> spin and hopefully this debunking will hit Trump's peddling as well. They
>> probably won't learn to stop peddling lies but at least they've
>> underestimated some knowledgeable people within ICANN, who are able to
>> describe the IANA transition in layman's terms.
>> 
>> I learned a couple of things from that article, too.. =)
>> 
>> -Raoul
>> 
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>> On 22 September 2016 at 18:37, Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk
>> <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk> > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry for the delay, Nigel.
>> 
>> I agree with your conclusion.
>> 
>> As you note, the .int TLD is quite well identified other than for the
>> international databases:  there is no ambiguity in scope for organizations
>> established by international treaties.
>> 
>> If I have understood correctly, international databases were transferred to
>> be included under .arpa some long time ago.
>> 
>> Either way, I see no reason why .int should be opened up beyond
>> organizations established by international treaty at this stage and
>> certainly not without a properly constituted policy development process
>> (which would need to establish a process for appointing a new operator).
>> 
>> None of this, of course, nullifies your conclusion!
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nigel Roberts [mailto:nigel at channelisles.net
>> <mailto:nigel at channelisles.net> ]
>> Sent: 16 September 2016 12:05
>> To: Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk> >
>> Cc: Christopher Wilkinson <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu
>> <mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> >;
>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
>> 
>> The only reference is descriptive rather than policy setting. .INT predates
>> RFC1591.
>> 
>> It says, simply "This domain is for organizations established by
>> international treaties, or international databases". (The latter term is
>> undefined, but includes telephony applications).
>> 
>> You will find this text alongside all the other (at the time) existing
>> generic domains as follows.
>> 
>> Much of what is written below has been changed, and much of what has been
>> changed was changed outside ICANN.
>> 
>> I would be interested to know which policy decision classified some of the
>> gTLDs in this list as "dehors ICANN", and which within.
>> 
>> But as two of the gTLDs described in RFC 1591 are currently extremely
>> sensitive (MIL and GOV),from what I heard in the Senate hearing, perhaps its
>> best not to ask for an answer to this until after the end of the month??
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    World Wide Generic Domains:
>> 
>>    COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities, that is
>>          companies.  This domain has grown very large and there is
>>          concern about the administrative load and system performance if
>>          the current growth pattern is continued.  Consideration is
>>          being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only allow future
>>          commercial registrations in the subdomains.
>> 
>>    EDU - This domain was originally intended for all educational
>>          institutions.  Many Universities, colleges, schools,
>>          educational service organizations, and educational consortia
>>          have registered here.  More recently a decision has been taken
>>          to limit further registrations to 4 year colleges and
>>          universities.  Schools and 2-year colleges will be registered
>>          in the country domains (see US Domain, especially K12 and CC,
>>          below).1
>> 
>>    NET - This domain is intended to hold only the computers of network
>>          providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers, the
>>          administrative computers, and the network node computers.  The
>>          customers of the network provider would have domain names of
>>          their own (not in the NET TLD).
>> 
>>    ORG - This domain is intended as the miscellaneous TLD for
>>          organizations that didn't fit anywhere else.  Some non-
>>          government organizations may fit here.
>> 
>>    INT - This domain is for organizations established by international
>>          treaties, or international databases.
>> 
>>    United States Only Generic Domains:
>> 
>>    GOV - This domain was originally intended for any kind of government
>>          office or agency.  More recently a decision was taken to
>>          register only agencies of the US Federal government in this
>>          domain.  State and local agencies are registered in the
>> country
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Postel                                                          [Page 2]
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>> 
>> RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994
>> 
>> 
>>          domains (see US Domain, below).
>> 
>>    MIL - This domain is used by the US military.
>> 
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