[CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered by the ICANN staff
Greg Shatan
gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 21:08:06 UTC 2016
And of course, the NGO known as ISO should not be confused with the IGO
known as ISO (the International Sugar Organization
<http://www.isosugar.org/>).
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Christopher Wilkinson <
lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
> And since everyone is joining in the fun…
>
> ISO stands for the International Organisation for Standardisation
> <http://www.iso.org/iso/home.html>,
> which is, of course, not the International Standards Organisation!
> (Perhaps those should have been spelt with a Z.)
>
> ;-)) CW
>
> On 30 Sep 2016, at 19:43, Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net> wrote:
>
> Greg is right, GMT has gone domestic and is used in most of the UK in the
> winter. In the summer they uses British Summer Time (BST=UTC+1).
> Coordinated Universal Time is a reference time and not a time zone. Why is
> it called UTC and not its acronym CUT?
> That was the work of our friends at the ITU. ITC is a compromise between
> the English CUT and the French TUC.
> Good ITU has tasks to keep it busy.
>
> Sam
>
> On 9/30/2016 9:09 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
>
> 18:30 UTC.
>
> On Friday, September 30, 2016, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Depends what you mean by GMT (it's often misunderstood -- GMT and UTC are
>> the same thing).
>>
>> So you are technically correct (although we don't use the term GMT
>> anymore except during the winter-time).
>>
>> But GMT is NOT the same as "UK time" - that is "BST" right now.
>>
>> So, if I understand this correctly, this will take place at 7:30 PM UK
>> and Ireland time, and 8:30 PM in Central Europe.
>>
>> On 30/09/16 12:51, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
>>
>>> Hearing in the case is scheduled for 130 PM Central Time (I think that is
>>> GMT -5) today ….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
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>>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:06 PM
>>> To: 'Jonathan Zuck' <JZuck at actonline.org>; Lori Schulman
>>> <lschulman at inta.org>; 'Raoul Plommer' <plommer at gmail.com>; Martin Boyle
>>> <martin.boyle at nominet.uk>
>>> Cc: Accountability Cross Community
>>> <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>>> encountered
>>> by the ICANN staff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Continuing Resolution passed. Lawsuit filed in Texas:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/files/epress/Net_Compla
>>> int_-_FILED.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese
>>>
>>>
>>> Of Counsel
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>>> From: Jonathan Zuck [mailto:JZuck at actonline.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:24 PM
>>> To: Lori Schulman; Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Raoul Plommer'; Martin Boyle
>>> Cc: Accountability Cross Community
>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>>> encountered
>>> by the ICANN staff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes but things could still change.
>>>
>>> Jonathan Zuck
>>> President
>>> ACT|The App Association
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>>> 3ewww.ACTonline.org <http://3ewww.actonline.org/>>
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>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> > on behalf of
>>> Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org <mailto:lschulman at inta.org> >
>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:01:16 PM
>>> To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Raoul Plommer'; Martin Boyle
>>> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>>> encountered
>>> by the ICANN staff
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>>>
>>>
>>> I saw a tweet from ISOC to that effect but I don’t have confirmation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lori S. Schulman
>>>
>>> Senior Director, Internet Policy
>>>
>>> International Trademark Association (INTA)
>>>
>>> +1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman
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>>>
>>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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>>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:48 PM
>>> To: 'Raoul Plommer' <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com> >;
>>> Martin
>>> Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk> >
>>> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>>> encountered
>>> by the ICANN staff
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>>>
>>> I heard the Rider preventing the IANA transition is OUT of the current
>>> Continuing Resolution. Can Steve or Becky confirm?
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese
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>>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>
>>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Raoul
>>> Plommer
>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:53 AM
>>> To: Martin Boyle
>>> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>>> encountered
>>> by the ICANN staff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Milton, I'm glad to see there's now been lots of responses to Ted Cruz's
>>> spin and hopefully this debunking will hit Trump's peddling as well. They
>>> probably won't learn to stop peddling lies but at least they've
>>> underestimated some knowledgeable people within ICANN, who are able to
>>> describe the IANA transition in layman's terms.
>>>
>>> I learned a couple of things from that article, too.. =)
>>>
>>> -Raoul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 September 2016 at 18:37, Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk
>>> <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay, Nigel.
>>>
>>> I agree with your conclusion.
>>>
>>> As you note, the .int TLD is quite well identified other than for the
>>> international databases: there is no ambiguity in scope for
>>> organizations
>>> established by international treaties.
>>>
>>> If I have understood correctly, international databases were transferred
>>> to
>>> be included under .arpa some long time ago.
>>>
>>> Either way, I see no reason why .int should be opened up beyond
>>> organizations established by international treaty at this stage and
>>> certainly not without a properly constituted policy development process
>>> (which would need to establish a process for appointing a new operator).
>>>
>>> None of this, of course, nullifies your conclusion!
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nigel Roberts [mailto:nigel at channelisles.net
>>> <mailto:nigel at channelisles.net> ]
>>> Sent: 16 September 2016 12:05
>>> To: Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.u
>>> k> >
>>> Cc: Christopher Wilkinson <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu
>>> <mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> >;
>>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>>> encountered
>>> by the ICANN staff
>>>
>>> The only reference is descriptive rather than policy setting. .INT
>>> predates
>>> RFC1591.
>>>
>>> It says, simply "This domain is for organizations established by
>>> international treaties, or international databases". (The latter term is
>>> undefined, but includes telephony applications).
>>>
>>> You will find this text alongside all the other (at the time) existing
>>> generic domains as follows.
>>>
>>> Much of what is written below has been changed, and much of what has been
>>> changed was changed outside ICANN.
>>>
>>> I would be interested to know which policy decision classified some of
>>> the
>>> gTLDs in this list as "dehors ICANN", and which within.
>>>
>>> But as two of the gTLDs described in RFC 1591 are currently extremely
>>> sensitive (MIL and GOV),from what I heard in the Senate hearing, perhaps
>>> its
>>> best not to ask for an answer to this until after the end of the month??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> World Wide Generic Domains:
>>>>
>>>> COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities, that is
>>>> companies. This domain has grown very large and there is
>>>> concern about the administrative load and system performance if
>>>> the current growth pattern is continued. Consideration is
>>>> being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only allow future
>>>> commercial registrations in the subdomains.
>>>>
>>>> EDU - This domain was originally intended for all educational
>>>> institutions. Many Universities, colleges, schools,
>>>> educational service organizations, and educational consortia
>>>> have registered here. More recently a decision has been taken
>>>> to limit further registrations to 4 year colleges and
>>>> universities. Schools and 2-year colleges will be registered
>>>> in the country domains (see US Domain, especially K12 and CC,
>>>> below).1
>>>>
>>>> NET - This domain is intended to hold only the computers of network
>>>> providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers, the
>>>> administrative computers, and the network node computers. The
>>>> customers of the network provider would have domain names of
>>>> their own (not in the NET TLD).
>>>>
>>>> ORG - This domain is intended as the miscellaneous TLD for
>>>> organizations that didn't fit anywhere else. Some non-
>>>> government organizations may fit here.
>>>>
>>>> INT - This domain is for organizations established by international
>>>> treaties, or international databases.
>>>>
>>>> United States Only Generic Domains:
>>>>
>>>> GOV - This domain was originally intended for any kind of government
>>>> office or agency. More recently a decision was taken to
>>>> register only agencies of the US Federal government in this
>>>> domain. State and local agencies are registered in the
>>>> country
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Postel [Page 2]
>>>>
>>>>
>>> RFC 1591 Domain Name System Structure and Delegation March 1994
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> domains (see US Domain, below).
>>>>
>>>> MIL - This domain is used by the US military.
>>>>
>>>
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