[arabic-vip] [vip] Overarching principles used in Devanagari team report

[Siavash Shahshahani]

My recolection is similar to Sarmad's. I don't remember that we made a
distinction between the occurrence of ZWNJ in TLD and the subordinate
strings, but I may be wrong. If there's a general ban for the use of ZWNJ
in TLDs, could someone provide a reference? 
Siavash

On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:44:43 -0700, "Sarmad Hussain"
<sarmad.hussain at kics.edu.pk> wrote:
> Dear Baher, Andrew, All,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your feedback.  We have the following text for ZWNJ in the
> latest
> version of the report on issues:
> 
>  
> 
> 200C (ZWNJ): Even though there may be some policy to restrict the use of
> ZWNJ in the TLDs, the committee felt that due to its critical use in
Arabic
> script to separate ligatures which end with joining letters, there is a
> need
> for ZWNJ by the community for TLDs (even though there may be limited use
at
> this time).  Zero Width Non Joiner is needed in domain names in Arabic
> script to separate multiple words within a label.  
> 
>  
> 
> Though there is a defined rule which allows ZWNJ only in contexts where
its
> effect is visible, there are few contexts which ZWNJ may still not have
a
> visible impact.  This includes characters U+0637, U+0638 and U+069F. 
This
> is indicated by the two sequences, one with and one without the ZWNJ: 
طب
> ط‌ب.  The ZWNJ should not be permitted following these three characters,
> in
> addition to the constraint already put on its use by the IDNA 2008
protocol
> (see RFC 5893).
> 
>  
> 
> I have requested Baher for links to the audio recordings to re-check
this.
> However, other members attending the F2F meeting are also requested to
> comment so that we can draft this text to correctly reflect what we
> finalized.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Sarmad
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org [mailto:arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org]
On
> Behalf Of Baher Esmat
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:08 AM
> To: Andrew Sullivan; arabic-vip at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] [vip] Overarching principles used in
Devanagari
> team report
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On 9/21/11 5:19 PM, "Andrew Sullivan" <ajs at crankycanuck.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 07:59:27PM -0700, Sarmad Hussain wrote:
>> 
>>> 2.       The Arabic Script Community is requesting the use of ZWNJ in
> TLDs
>> 
>> This is something that did not come clear to me in our face to face,
>> but I know someone has asked for this on a mailing list.
> 
> It was not that clear to me as well. I recall there was a discussion
about
> this during the f2f meeting but thought that there was no consensus on
the
> necessity to allow ZWNJ at TLD level, and the conclusion was that the
team
> would raise this as an issue in their final report. 
> 
> Baher
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I do like 1.6 (I think Andrew emphasized this as "delegation" in our
> meeting
>>> and it is an important point not very well understood by the community
>>> (please correct me if I am wrong here)).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sarmad
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: vip-bounces at icann.org [mailto:vip-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf
Of
>>> Naela Sarras
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:24 AM
>>> To: vip at icann.org
>>> Subject: [vip] Overarching principles used in Devanagari team report
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> During a meeting of the Devanagari Case Study Team meeting last week,
>>> the
>>> team adopted a set of overarching principles that they will include in
> their
>>> Case Study Issues report. We are sharing this section of the report
with
> the
>>> other case study teams in case they find it useful for their
respective
>>> reports.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Naela Sarras
>>> 
>>>  
>>>