[council] Fwd: Uniform Rapid Suspension Discussion

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Wed Oct 3 00:13:12 UTC 2012

For those who may not have noticed it, the 
original message includes a reference to a 
Webinar TOMORROW (Wednesday) at 1500 UTC. It is not in the GNSO Calendar.


At 01/10/2012 11:14 AM, john at crediblecontext.com wrote:
>I am in agreement with you.
>It is neither realistic nor necessary for there 
>to be a Council statement as long as we "work with our respective groups."
>John Berard
>Credible Context
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>Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: Uniform Rapid Suspension Discussion
>From: Stéphane_Van_Gelder 
><<mailto:stephane.vangelder at indom.com>stephane.vangelder at indom.com>
>Date: Mon, October 01, 2012 8:04 am
>To: "Jonathan Robinson" 
><<mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>
>Cc: <<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>council at gnso.icann.org>
>FYI I have not engaged with Olof directly to 
>ascertain what has led him to believe that the 
>Council could put together a statement in this 
>short space of time, on something that has taken 
>months of previous GNSO work to put 
><http://together.So>together.So I do not know if 
>it is realistic to expect the Council to submit statements.
>We have, over the past weeks, seen some pointed 
>questions for Staff from Councillors on the 
>latest implementation plans for the URS. Kurt 
>has given some responses and I understand that 
>the Toronto session Olof refers to is also part 
>of Staff's work to get a complete picture of the 
>situation and ensure a proper way forward is found.
>This is one of the outcomes we had in mind when 
>URS was put on our weekend agenda, and Wolf and 
>Glen are working with Kurt to organize that 
>session. I think Kurt's proposed approach to 
>have the output of the Toronto meetings inform 
>further GNSO discussions is useful, and would 
>encourage us all to work with our respective 
>groups to ensure that the Council does feed those discussions.
>Le 1 oct. 2012 à 16:47, Jonathan Robinson a écrit :
>>Thanks Stéphane,
>>I can confirm that the Registries SG has now 
>>received a related request from ICANN (Olof 
>>Nordling) looking for input and agenda items.
>>In our case, we (the GNSO) are being asked for 
>>a presentation or statement on the way forward for URS work.
>>It seems that Olof is looking for something at the Monday meeting.
>>As far as I can see this topic (URS) only comes 
>>up on the weekend as part of our composite new 
>>gTLD session with the Kurt on Sunday morning.
>>So, we may need to schedule some dedicated time 
>>to deal with this or set Olof’s expectations that a statement is unlikely.
>>I’d be interested to hear from others as to 
>>whether or not it’s realistic to provide GNSO 
>>Council agreed input at the Monday meeting?
>><mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org>owner-council at gnso.icann.org 
>>[<mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org>mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] 
>>On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
>>Sent: 29 September 2012 13:14
>>To: <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>council at gnso.icann.org List
>>Subject: [council] Fwd: Uniform Rapid Suspension Discussion
>>Councillors, FYI.
>>Stéphane Van Gelder
>>Directeur Général / General manager
>>INDOM NetNames France
>>Registry Relations and Strategy Director
>>T: +33 (0)1 48 01 83 51
>>F: +33 (0)1 48 01 83 61
>>Début du message réexpédié :
>>De : Olof Nordling <<mailto:olof.nordling at icann.org>olof.nordling at icann.org>
>>Objet : RE: Uniform Rapid Suspension Discussion
>>Date : 28 septembre 2012 18:08:48 HAEC
>>À : 'Stéphane Van Gelder' 
>>(<mailto:stephane.vangelder at indom.com>stephane.vangelder at indom.com) 
>><<mailto:stephane.vangelder at indom.com>stephane.vangelder at indom.com>
>>Cc : Kurt Pritz 
>><<mailto:kurt.pritz at icann.org>kurt.pritz at icann.org>, 
>>Karen Lentz 
>><<mailto:karen.lentz at icann.org>karen.lentz at icann.org>, 
>>Amy Stathos <<mailto:amy.stathos at icann.org>amy.stathos at icann.org>
>>Dear Stéphane,
>>Kurt forwarded me your kind reply to his mail 
>>below, and I would like to follow-up with some 
>>updates and a specific question. As you may 
>>have noted, the first upcoming sessions on URS 
>>are a webinar on 3 October 
>>) and a session in Toronto on 18 October (see 
>>where we will further discuss the solution 
>>suggestions brought up by the community in 
>>Prague and pursue the objectives stated in 
>>Kurt’s mail.  The ambition is to find an 
>>agreed way to analyze each suggestion in detail 
>>and reach balanced conclusions, for example by 
>>establishing a suitably balanced drafting team for that purpose.
>>Now to my question, as you mention that the 
>>Council may follow-up on Kurt’s message in a 
>>near future: Could we count on a presentation 
>>or statement at the URS session in Toronto to 
>>provide GNSO Council guidance on the best way 
>>forward for the continued URS work?
>>I hope this is possible and look forward to your response.
>>On another note: I also intend to contact the 
>>GNSO SGs/Constituencies individually as their 
>>contributions to the discussions in substance 
>>are essential. In addition, your help in 
>>spreading the word to them would be much 
>>appreciated. Proposals for the Toronto session 
>>as to speakers and topics are warmly welcome, as well as written input.
>>Very best regards
>>From: Stéphane Van Gelder 
>><<mailto:stephane.vangelder at indom.com>stephane.vangelder at indom.com>
>>To: Kurt <<mailto:kurt.pritz at icann.org>kurt.pritz at icann.org>
>>Cc: GNSO Council List <<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>council at gnso.icann.org>
>>Subject: Re: Uniform Rapid Suspension Discussion
>>Thanks Kurt. I am copying the Council for their information.
>>The Council will no doubt follow-up on this in the near future.
>>Stéphane Van Gelder
>>Directeur Général / General manager
>>INDOM NetNames France
>>Registry Relations and Strategy Director
>>T: +33 (0)1 48 01 83 51
>>F: +33 (0)1 48 01 83 61
>>Le 18 sept. 2012 à 22:09, Kurt Pritz a écrit :
>>Hi Stephane:
>>I am writing to let you know that we are 
>>planning a set of discussions on Uniform Rapid 
>>Suspension (URS) implementation in the near 
>>future and seek the input of GNSO leadership. 
>>As you know, a meeting in Prague we indicated 
>>that URS, as currently designed, did not appear 
>>to meet cost requirements. In Prague, 
>>contributors in the meeting described briefly 
>>several potential solutions. In the next set of 
>>meetings, we want to flesh out some of those 
>>models for possible implementation.We want to 
>>have one meeting in about two weeks (probably a 
>>webinar type of format with a possibility for 
>>some face-to-face interaction), and then we 
>>have a meeting in Toronto is scheduled. The 
>>first meeting will be announced shortly.
>>I am writing you because some of the proposed 
>>solutions, while feasible, do not match up with 
>>the specific conclusions of the STI team when 
>>it did its work. We recognize the role of the 
>>GNSO in those discussions. While the meetings 
>>we are having are open to all, we understand 
>>that the GNSO leadership might want to conduct 
>>the URS discussions in a certain way. Having 
>>the twin goals of developing a solution in time 
>>for use by new gTLDs and ensuring that all 
>>those interested can participate in the 
>>discussion, we can work in whichever way the 
>>GNSO wishes to proceed. (Of course, we also 
>>seek to meet the cost and timeliness goals for 
>>which the the URS was designed and also seek to 
>>ensure that registrants enjoy the protections 
>>written into the current model by the IRT and 
>>STI.)The output of the next meetings can inform 
>>GNSO discussion or we can carry on in a way acceptable to the GNSO.
>>I am also copying Olivier as ALAC members participated in the STI.
>>I hope you find this helpful. Contact me anytime with questions.
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