[CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] DRAFT ALAC EPDP Advice

[sivasubramanian muthusamy]

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 12:10 AM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Carlton,
>
> I hear you loud and clear, but if we are being realistic, I think the
> level of representation that exist within the ePDP may be a factor on how
> far one can push these things.
>

We need to say what needs to be said irrespective of perceptions of
limitations.

Sivasubramanian M

I have heard a couple of times that the numbers don't matter but how loud
> we  "constructively" scream, well within ICANN, that's probably nothing
> more than a good motivational speech.
>
> Attempts has been made to get this through via the ePDP without luck and
> since ALAC practically has a milk teeth on ePDP, I don't think it will be
> out of order to utilize that which we've always been reminded of as being
> our role, which is to advice; hopefully there are still some permanent
> teeth left in there.
>
> Regards
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 17:54 Carlton Samuels, <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thick WHOIS made sense back then - and some of us were savaged for taking
>> that position! - and still does today, if only because if every GTLD
>> operator has the same obligations it is easier to check compliance.
>>
>> The distinction between legal and natural persons and why that would
>> matter is, um, well, I am loathe to commit 2 more brain cells to that
>> argument.
>>
>> The wave and momentum of national data privacy law and regulations is
>> tacking the EU way. So in the final analysis a geographic distinction has
>> no long term value.
>>
>> Do we have a new solution to offer anywhere?
>>
>> And why does this 'advise the Board request/require' sound so much like
>> we got popped in the mouth in the schoolyard and ran to teacher for justice?
>>
>> A better posture is to make the arguments we favour sharper and put them
>> on the wire for the WG to see.
>>
>> Orchestrate and manufacture consent!
>>
>> Carlton.
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, 8:59 am Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please find attached a draft of the ALAC Advice to the Board related to
>>> the EPDP.
>>>
>>> Note that the highlighting (inadvertantly missing in the third case)
>>> gives two alternative pheasings to be discussed.
>>>
>>> Hadia has reviewed it and supports it.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>> --
>>> Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.
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