[CPWG] Fwd: Packet Clearing House warns .ORG websites to suffer downtime under Ethos Capital management

Wed Dec 18 16:29:34 UTC 2019

It’s “a” view.

By their logic then a LOT of ccTLDs would be offline a LOT of the time

In reality, apart from one or two outliers, that is NOT what is happening.

I’d question why they’re sending this and what their endgame is.

A lot of the stuff being spewed around the .org sale is hyperbolic or completely self-serving. In this case I just can’t see who stands to benefit from it.

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From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net>
Date: Wednesday 18 December 2019 at 15:24
To: "judith at jhellerstein.com" <judith at jhellerstein.com>, "cpwg at icann.org" <cpwg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [CPWG] Fwd: Packet Clearing House warns .ORG websites to suffer downtime under Ethos Capital management

Judith --  The downtime part might be speculative, but this letter does present some actual financial information on what it costs to run the system and the fact that a private company will not have access to the same stream of funds (through donations, tax deductions, etc.) that a non-profit has. In the absence of clarity and transparency, I find this letter and the information in it to be of high value. PCH has a 15 year track record with .org -- they have something important to say. If we enter into this debate, it must be on the strength of having weighed all the information available.

Marita
On 12/18/2019 9:59 AM, Judith Hellerstein wrote:

HI Marita,

I read this.  It is all speculative.  We just do not know. I think these letters do more harm than good.  We just do not know the answers.  How do we know that Ethos will not run PIR the same way it was run before.  They may continue giving PIR the leeway to do exactly as they have been doing.  We just do not know

Judith

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On 12/18/2019 9:37 AM, Marita Moll wrote:

Some new information from the financial/operational side to be aware

Marita

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Subject:
Packet Clearing House warns .ORG websites to suffer downtime under Ethos Capital management
Date:
Wed, 18 Dec 2019 12:40:00 +0000
From:
Ayden Férdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM><mailto:icann at FERDELINE.COM>
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Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com><mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>
To:
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Dear all,

In this letter to ICANN's General Counsel, the Packet Clearing House warns that under Ethos Capital's management of PIR, "the decreased operational spending necessary for any commercial purchaser to break even would result in an increase from zero down-time to, on average, slightly more than three days without service each year."

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/mitchell-woodcock-to-jeffrey-12dec19-en.pdf

Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline

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