[CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users

[Roberto Gaetano]

Hi Evan
I am not sure that a SW daemon could be seen as end user by the RFC8890 definition. Para.2 states:

In this document, "end users" means human users whose activities IETF standards support, sometimes indirectly.

To me, that excludes “non-human” entities.

Anyway, what I find very important is not just the consideration about end users, but the statement in para.3 that:

[…]the IETF is not neutral about the purpose of its work in developing the Internet;

To me that means an assumption of responsibility about the consequences - including political and social - of the development of the internet, and the need to factor these considerations in the IETF work.
After all, we all are constantly wondering “why are we doing all this?” and the answer that we give to this question is crucial for the future of the Internet.

Cheers,
Roberto


On 30.08.2020, at 03:41, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org<mailto:evan at telly.org>> wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 16:50, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>> wrote:
Finally - a definition of ‘end user’ from the tech community - which, of course, I will use.

Exactly what I was thinking.

While I'm not sure I agree fully with the definition (under which a software demon could be considered an "end user"), at least it's a specific and "good enough" definition. And we need one to end all the needless obstacles to ALAC work under the guise of "so what is an end user anyway?"...

- Evan

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