[CPWG] Transfer Policy Review Team: Question about the 60-days lock

Wed Nov 10 19:58:09 UTC 2021

The Official ICANN Page titled "About Unauthorized Transfers and Changes 
of Registrant" is at:

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/unauthorized-2013-05-03-en

I am sorry, I could locate this page only now.

Kindly note that, undated pages such as this need a formal check by the 
respective
team on the latest position.

Also, perturbing the system for marginal gains only readily visible 
tunable parameters
such as "60 days lock in" needs more comprehension.

Sincerely,

Gopal T V
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On 2021-11-10 18:40, Bill Jouris wrote:
> If ICANN does not have the contractual ability to require transfer
> back after unauthorized change, the contracts ought to be updated to
> provide for that.
> 
> Bill Jouris
> 
>  On Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 04:52:55 AM PST, gopal--- via CPWG
> <cpwg at icann.org> wrote:
> 
> This is very good news.
> 
> The framework of operations for domain transfers seems to be quite
> robust.
> 
> However, I note that ICANN does not have contractual authority to
> require a registrar
> to transfer a domain name back to a different registrar or registrant,
> 
> even
> if a transfer was the result of an unauthorized access to your email
> account or
> other login credentials.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gopal T V
> 0 9840121302
> https://vidwan.inflibnet.ac.in/profile/57545
> https://www.facebook.com/gopal.tadepalli
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Dr. T V Gopal
> Professor
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> College of Engineering
> Anna University
> Chennai - 600 025, INDIA
> Ph : (Off) 22351723 Extn. 3340
>       (Res) 24454753
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> On 2021-11-10 17:52, Theo Geurts via CPWG wrote:
>> Compliance showed us the number of complaints regarding unauthorized
>> transfers yesterday. The numbers were low ranging from 1-20 a month,
>> with little to no indication of real domain name hijacks.
>> 
>> Account control panel compromises (a strong indicator) were absent
> for
>> most of the months.
>> 
>> Average domain transfers are around 400.000-500.000 a month.
>> 
>> Best.
>> 
>> Theo
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Theo Geurts wrote:
>> 
>>> Compliance showed us the number of complaints regarding
> unauthorized
>>> transfers yesterday. The numbers were low ranging from 1-20 a
> month,
>>> with little to no indication of real domain name hijacks.
>>> 
>>> Account control panel compromises (a strong indicator) were absent
>>> for most of the months.
>>> 
>>> Average domain transfers are around 400.000-500.000 a month.
>>> 
>>> Best.
>>> 
>>> Theo
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via
>>> CPWG wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I’d recommend you read the SSAC papers on hijacks as well as
>>>> some of the background materials for previous IRTP PDPs
>>>> 
>>>> A lot of the locks that exist at the moment are due to past
>>>> experience ie. Domains being hijacked etc.,
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Mr Michele Neylon
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> FROM: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Steinar
>>>> Grøtterød via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
>>>> DATE: Tuesday, 9 November 2021 at 17:45
>>>> TO: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
>>>> SUBJECT: [CPWG] Transfer Policy Review Team: Question about the
>>>> 60-days lock
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> At the TPR WG Meeting on Nov 9, 2021, the 60-days locks were
>>>> discussed. The present policy – and the majority of Registry
>>>> Operators, have a 60-days transfer lock after the initial
>>>> registration of a domain name AND a 60-days lock after a
>>>> successful inter-registrar transfer.
>>>> 
>>>> Based on the discussion in the TPR WG, I would like to hear the
>>>> CPWG opinion by asking the following:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Are we in favor of keeping the 60-days lock after the initial
>>>> registration of a domain name?
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Are we in favor of keeping the 60-days lock after a successful
>>>> transfer of a domain name?
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Could the above be optional?
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Should the Registrant has the option to opt-out?
>>>> 
>>>> I did not have the time to discuss this with the At-Large TPR
>>>> members and observers, hence will not ask for a poll. But
>>>> hopefully CPWG can express their view at the CPWG call on Nov 10,
>>>> 2021.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Steinar Grøtterød
>>>> 
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