[CPWG] Some Useful Doc about Decentralized DNS

Chokri Ben Romdhane chokribr at gmail.com
Fri Aug 12 11:23:28 UTC 2022


Thank you David,

Note that I've attached the local use to IOT and the   devices  that are in
most cases used locally.  I also think that the use of DNS based on
Blockchain will be useful for CCTLD.

For the rest of your email I totally agree with you and the point you have
mentioned is one of the reason that push me to start this discussion, and
we are  here to learn from each others how usel are   this claimed new
("old" to repeat the term used by Sebastian during CPWG  call )
technologies.

Friendly regards
Chokri


Le ven. 12 août 2022 à 11:47, David Mackey <mackey361 at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi Chokri,
>
> Can you please expand on the claim "seems to be more efficient for a local
> use"?
>
> End users are accustomed to decades of false claims from emerging
> technologies. The trade off for losing a rules based DNS policy system to
> anonymous decentralized control for unspecified benefits reminds me of
> the inflated claims of unspecified future benefits claimed in the .ORG
> discussion. Decentralized technology is not a bad thing, as long as
> accountable human based policy is not affected.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 5:16 AM Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Mackey and Friends,
>> Decentralized DNS are facing a lot of challenges in  addition of DNS
>> abuse issues and the misplaced use of Blockchain technology by
>> Cybercriminal
>> <https://www.digitalshadows.com/blog-and-research/how-cybercriminals-are-using-blockchain-dns-from-the-market-to-the-bazar/>
>>  :
>>
>>
>>    - First of all they have to convince users that are really
>>    decentralized system since they are basically using ICANN infrastructure,
>>    - Decentralized DNS are not currently regulated  , so users rights
>>    are dictated by the firm owning  the Gtld,
>>    -  What will happen if a new gtld will be registered simultanly by
>>    ICANN registry and a Decentralize DNS firm?
>>
>> but the simple Business model (no registrar no registry  ) adopted
>> by Decentralized DNS attracts users and seems to be more efficient for a
>> local use particularly with the emergence of IOT (25-50 billions devices if
>> we trust some estimation) .
>>
>> Thank you dear friends for your interest and looking forward to
>> continuing the discussion about this topic.
>>
>>
>> Friendly regards
>> Chokri
>>
>>
>> Le jeu. 11 août 2022 à 15:34, David Mackey <mackey361 at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> I'd love to hear about how decentralized DNS is going to handle the
>>> operational problem of DNS abuse.
>>>
>>> We're probably at the point where we shouldn't automatically trust a new
>>> technology without understanding the social harm that comes with it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 7:55 AM Chokri Ben Romdhane via CPWG <
>>> cpwg at icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>> For those whole would like to know more About Decentralized DNS some
>>>> useful Documents
>>>>
>>>> Challenges with Alternative Name Systems
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/octo-034-27apr22-en.pdf>
>>>> Blockchain-based DNS building
>>>> <https://pdf.sciencedirectassets.com/280203/1-s2.0-S1877050920X00068/1-s2.0-S187705092030257X/main.pdf?X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEPP%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJGMEQCIC%2FXRD%2BfnTn2Fr7%2FJgaG8GFFc%2FvrEMxgkbRUU%2FqHZd1oAiBQxq4T7SCRKxGG6kNpq3rQ3Kx9TbSviMllvVfrZbddGCrSBAhbEAUaDDA1OTAwMzU0Njg2NSIMY6Ywr%2F9qKXJ5dq%2F8Kq8EssZrNvZ8xE%2FRgF4iiD1Pyrk0crTu1%2Bc1NY89vvbkRIoJczUNVyJd63%2F1mi3H9ZUIHzPalxHHqshWu%2BXTIIqUj2Us%2FdetwLYZEz3IiYyDy7GLlT9e9jQnESXglPRmb5FqO61Qu7iylYBWlD97rshWZ5M6iLzAA0mmdYmk%2BS6T9mfndXJsbCxORc%2BHMdGtRQNbXI9Ze5YckEeEt3mRedeUM4vTWzUe7QGoQSg3Vp6e0Qx%2BPMl9RbhfVY%2FZ6EtNHKZVO94Fvdr2vmt1R%2BpV12v3QI98zgsXf9vapHkQQczcfxesIziBQSiBXCb1SkK1LCJjPpeuIJgGux3uJAGB8FN6hY0ura9ZWGajVDmLpoyIeF4b3kHvH5LUp31FJWM7ep2EYbp89fLm4nu0%2BeU22vcZIEx3Gsqn%2FuMFU1PfplTNG%2Bn67sIbf3oVCAy94py4Lf4SVXAgOkrd417XZfY%2Br9IgDiUzfOoz94Ouq7bI%2BdUzSQwpLATc%2F4Vp1prNEKGsWkiiOJc7nebiN3X67luNanNTF%2FrH39rf9UiYuPPi54C5gblSAhcWv29gGPS5koEXBIIHeUJe7ZQldjW97J%2F6uG%2BFDhY%2Bd97P%2FyQsMmOT4vwgmubMvEJXVLBQ8bIubS6VuaMwxd%2Fy9h7ElHdqyuANvizrynnPYUDddkMr4CMkuCb%2FWSYIniblSe2XFktgmByJSa35JalY%2FJ26i5szFAGBZ9tS1LUjkBqaK9zKEDPtKI83EjCZrNOXBjqqASsO2uYc8tSVX91%2Fq0LnOjPyxkihiPSZfkCKjNF5BZGu9A3bl2FsW3DpysyKcPbmx5FF8tStuHBREN2lnWcnhCl0nQSsms5BwZZBZ0fcenVlVKtebhp0NEz%2FF0tELUImYO8EHY9MdNp5wgLKgvj1S9OhI1RMSVoA6hxEY15Zhl%2Fli77%2FY%2FmyJ111GUiu6UXq%2B%2FLXvGm%2FOgxtzoCV1WFpfuh0QvQwhcFEXmSz&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Date=20220811T112910Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAQ3PHCVTYUSMEYYR2%2F20220811%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Signature=0ce6b796072d2be6bb0a3a1e2d4ba3fa5fcc96636372b012284e59ff2625ef83&hash=a959ede71c14f46da7ed41ad021fe0c9fc57fbe4196f9a4d674170e7abea8a72&host=68042c943591013ac2b2430a89b270f6af2c76d8dfd086a07176afe7c76c2c61&pii=S187705092030257X&tid=spdf-6189f0f9-a394-4283-98f9-d5a1e24710e2&sid=f50e64f866d44449ce5b8ee3f16044c3bd3egxrqb&type=client&ua=545c5954005001535c&rr=7390a1c3280f3299>
>>>> B-DNS: A Secure and Efficient DNS Based onthe Blockchain Technology
>>>> <http://www4.comp.polyu.edu.hk/~csbxiao/paper/2021/TNSE_2020_09_0710_final.pdf>
>>>>
>>>> How Cybercriminals Are Using Blockchain DNS
>>>> <https://www.digitalshadows.com/blog-and-research/how-cybercriminals-are-using-blockchain-dns-from-the-market-to-the-bazar/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Friendly Regards
>>>> Chokri
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