[CPWG] Are Blockchain Domains within the Mission of ICANN - WAS RE: Questions to the board about distributed DNS

[Evan Leibovitch]

Hi Chokri,

(First of all, of the five speakers I have zero trust or respect (anymore)
for the PoV of either Vint Cerf or Andrew Sullivan. Both were actively
promoting a commercial  form of fragmentation -- trying  to destroy the
.ORG domain by selling it to venture capital -- using the most
UNaccountable, UNtransparent methods possible. They have superb experience,
but IMO they have demonstrated that their analyses and perspectives are for
sale. So as much as I appreciate their historical contributions, I discount
their input here as they have previously advocated complete disregard for
the public interest.)

Of the speakers, I'm with Eli and Bill. Who are we kidding? There already
is Internet fragmentation, in the form of various site-blocking and
censoring mechanisms, to varying degree, around the world. If the will
exists, protocols can provide bridges between alternate federated
Internets; that could enable future innovations that might provide an
alternative to the corporate-driven content cesspool that this Internet has
now become. Andrew's assertion that "the alternative to the (current)
Internet is no Internet at all" is utter BS that demonstrates both
self-service and lack of imagination.

(One real-world example of how what was once a single point of Internet
failure can be fixed through a federation is the current transition by many
from Twitter to Mastodon.)

In the envisioned world of multiple federated Internets, ICANN oversees
just a tiny part -- one function of one Internet implementation -- and
that's fine with me. I maintain that what ICANN calls
"multistakeholdferism" is just a smokescreen over industry capture, and I
welcome Internet alternatives offering governance models that have end
users and the public interest as core to policy-making rather than just
advisory committees on the periphery.

- Evan

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 5:56 AM Chokri Ben Romdhane via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
> Any comments about yesterday's webinar about  Internet Fragmentation,
> Reconsidered
> <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/citi-fragmentation/videos/233809733?origin=stream_live&mixpanel_id=136bcbdee9b6e-007947519-13134557-1fa400-136bcbdee9c115a&acc_id=14077045&medium=email>
>  ?
> Friendly regards,
> Chokri
>
>
> Le mar. 4 oct. 2022 à 12:35, Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> 1+ Evan let's wait for SSAC Work party report probably by the end of next
>> year !
>> Chokri
>>
>> Le mar. 4 oct. 2022 à 08:52, Evan Leibovitch via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Annett,
>>>
>>> My takeway is that  it would be important for ALAC to keep an eye on the
>>>> developments of blockchain domains globally for the sole purpose of
>>>> advocating for and protecting the interests of the Internet end users.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agree. "Keep an eye on it" is the best ALAC can do ... and if there are
>>> real, user-affecting changes that call for advice to the Board or other
>>> constituencies then that is wholly appropriate. But not until then.
>>>
>>> BTW, I'm not suggesting that there is no place for discussing DNS
>>> alternatives, just maintaining that ICANN (and by inference ICANN At-Large)
>>> is not the place for it. This is exactly the kind of issue that the IGF
>>> needs to be discussing, and perhaps it's also worthy of ISOC and/or its
>>> chapters. I note in my review of the applicable Bylaws that ICANN should
>>> coordinate with other bodies as recommended by the IETF, so that is also a
>>> place where this topic can be raised at the appropriate time.
>>>
>>> When the blockchain-registry-wannabes get on the radar of IETF as
>>> something worthy of consideration, we can revisit this again in a different
>>> light. Until then it's all just vapor and threats.
>>>
>>> - Evan
>>>
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