[CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs

Thu Dec 4 13:16:48 UTC 2014

+1 here.

Regards,
Vika

From:  "Becky.Burr at neustar.biz" <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz>
Date:  Thursday 04 December 2014 12:40 AM
To:  Erick Iriarte <eiriarte at iriartelaw.com>, Milton L Mueller
<mueller at syr.edu>
Cc:  CWG Stewardship <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs

The ccNSO is the source of delegation/revocation policy, based on
multistakeholder processes, consensus, etc.  That is very different from
making a judgment in any particular case whether the policy is being applied
properly.  There are also complicated national law and jurisdictional issues
that arise in the ccTLD context.  As a ccTLD operator and a gTLD operator, I
would want the right to challenge any revocation/redel decision on a case by
case basis.  

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1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006
Office: + 1.202.533.2932  Mobile:  +1.202.352.6367  / becky.burr at neustar.biz
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From: Erick Iriarte <eiriarte at iriartelaw.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM
To: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
Cc: CWG Stewardship <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs

Dear Milton 

almost is important to understand what is the basis of your comment, but is
your decision share with us your opinion.

Yours,

Erick

> El 2/12/2014, a las 12:00, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> escribió:
> 
> Desiree:
> So, according to you, the lawyer (counsel) who authorizes
> delegations/redelegations would be provided by the ccNSO? Or from some other
> ³group of ccTLDs²? what if the ccNSO lawyer had one opinion and the lawyer
> provided by another group had a different opinion? Not criticizing, just
> trying to understand what is being proposed.
>  
> Erick:
> My opinion of the legal status of a ccTLD is not relevant to answering those
> questions. I repeat:  I am not criticizing the proposal, I am just trying to
> understand what is being proposed.
>  
>  
> From: Desiree Miloshevic [mailto:dmiloshevic at afilias.info]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:51 AM
> To: Milton L Mueller
> Cc: CWG Stewardship
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs
>  
> Milton
>  
> Before you respond to Erick - I'll just say add that, for example, the ccNSO
> FOIWG worked on interpretation of RFC 1591 and other IANA related policy
> guidelines.
> http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/foi-final-07oct14-en.pdf
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> My understanding is that bodies like the ccNSO or group of ccTLDs are there to
> develop policies regarding the delegation and redelegation of ccTLDs.
> It's my personal view that it could potentially form such a council in future
> and give opinions. (independent of ICANN board).
>  
> Desiree
> --
>  
> On 2 Dec 2014, at 15:30, Erick Iriarte <eiriarte at iriartelaw.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Milton
>> to understand better your message and position: for you exactly what is the
>> legal status of a cctld ?
>> Erick
>> 
>> 
>>> El 2/12/2014, a las 10:16, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> escribió:
>>> 
>>> I have some questions regarding this:
>>> 
>>> "The CWG is considering replacing the authorization role, at least with
>>> regard to ccTLDs, with a written opinion from counsel (independent of ICANN)
>>> that each delegation and re-delegation request meets the policy requirements
>>> cited in the publicly posted reports."
>>> 
>>> Where would this counsel come from?
>>> Whose counsel is it if it is independent of ICANN and ICANN is supplying the
>>> IANA service? 
>>> Since most of the policy requirements related to ccTLD
>>> delegation/redelegation are not laws, but things like RFC 1591, on what
>>> basis is the counsel's opinion made? Precedent?
>>> 
>>> Milton L. Mueller
>>> Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor
>>> Syracuse University School of Information Studies
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