[Gac-gnso-cg] Overview of Active GNSO Working Groups

Wed Feb 19 10:11:15 UTC 2014

Dear Suzanne ..

Many thanks for your valuable feedback, being most experienced in
working with the GNSO .. 

The IOC/Red Cross and IGOs issue was not on the shared list but I see
your point and hope Marika's response addressed it ..

Regarding your comments on the privacy and proxy issue, the monthly
one-pager was referenced for further details .. So do you think the
issues are not clear enough in the one-pager or should be included in
the short description .. 

I believe, and I stand to be corrected, we now have 4 levels of details:

-          WG listing by phase, 

-          Brief description of each, 

-          Further information included in the one-pager, and ultimately

-          Full details available online

I think we now need to agree, from a GAC perspective, how to utilize
such information and whether we need more, less or in a different format
..

As to the day to day cooperation material and the objectives and
expectations it include, I fully agree with you that we have to share
them with the GAC and the GNSO for comment .. Same as we did with the
finalized charter .. It is even indicated as one of our critical success
factors in the charter "Ongoing consultations and consideration of
received comments to ensure everyone is on board at each milestone" ..
Yet I believe we need to share material/docs that has/have already been
discussed and agreed upon by our consultation group .. So if group
members are fine and have nothing more to add, modify or delete, I will
hence ask for green light to further share with GAC chair and members,
seeking their feedback on both the stated objectives and expectations as
well as the described approach ..

Hope this sounds reasonable ..

Kind Regards

--Manal

From: Suzanne Radell [mailto:SRadell at ntia.doc.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:39 PM
To: Manal Ismail; Mike O'Connor
Cc: gac-gnso-cg at icann.org
Subject: RE: [Gac-gnso-cg] Overview of Active GNSO Working Groups

Hi all, and thanks to Mikey and Manal for your thoughtful efforts to
improve the presentation of this material; thanks of course as well to
Marika and Olof for pulling it together.

I like Mikey's idea of presenting the different initiatives in their
stages, as that does make it easier to understand the status of
individual initiatives.  I am still not sure, however, whether the
material presented might need some further explanation.  For example,
having already delivered GAC consensus advice to the ICANN Board on the
IOC/Red Cross and IGOs, it's not clear what input is being sought from
the GNSO on the IGO/INGO matter.  As just one GAC member, I'm confused,
and imagine others may well be too.

Re the privacy and proxy issue, which is of great interest (even though
very few GAC members are engaged as yet), I wonder if the write up could
lay out a bit more clearly what the issues are; it is the statement of
issues (perhaps the scope of work?) that we'd want to use as a trigger
for the GAC to determine whether and if so ,how, public policy matters
should be taken into account.  I hope this makes sense; if not, just let
me know and I'll try again.

Rather than send two separate emails, I'm using this same message to
respond to Manal's second email with regard to the day to day
cooperation material.  It strikes me that we might want to put the
objectives and expectations out to the GAC and the GNSO for comment, as
preparation for the Singapore meeting.  Since this is such an important
project, I'd feel more confident if we conducted periodic reality
checks, and since Singapore is a short 5 weeks away, I see that meeting
as a golden opportunity to hear from our respective communities and,
more importantly, to have them endorse this approach.  I hope I'm not
out of sync with the rest of you, and would very much welcome your
thoughts.  Thanks, Suz

Suzanne Murray Radell

Senior Policy Advisor, NTIA/OIA

202-482-3167

From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces at icann.org
[mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Manal Ismail
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:48 AM
To: Mike O'Connor
Cc: gac-gnso-cg at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Overview of Active GNSO Working Groups

Thanks Mikey ..

Thought it would be more interactive if I respond inline ..

Pls read below ..

Kind Regards

--Manal

From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike at haven2.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:53 PM
To: Manal Ismail
Cc: Marika Konings; gac-gnso-cg at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Overview of Active GNSO Working Groups

hi Manal,

i agree - i think this is a useful way to share this info.  

[MI]: good J ..

as a person with a really short attention span, i would like to see the
two sections reversed.  so the summary list goes first and then the
details follow.  those long solid blocks of text in the detailed write
up are hard to get through - but really helpful if one of the PDPs
catches my eye and i want to learn more.  would you take that as a
friendly amendment?

[MI]: fully agree .. you have a point .. thanks for the suggestion ..
will do ..

i think your document would be really helpful for both the GAC AND the
GNSO.  it's a nice short summary of the "pipeline" of PDPs that seems
easy to prepare and easy to digest.  and maybe a web version of it goes
up on the GNSO web page and a link is included each time it's
distributed?  that way the world can quickly find out what is happening.

[MI]: first of all it's your and Marika's document J !! this is a mere
copy and paste from what you have both sent .. I also like the web
version suggestion .. let's keep it in mind until we receive all
suggestions ..

i also agree that there are interim-improvement opportunities here.  for
example, i'm part of the Data and Metrics for Policy Making working
group which is in the early stages of getting under way.  this would be
a great working group for GAC members who are interested in improving
our "fact-based policy making" capability.  since i'm also a member of
this group, i could help any GAC volunteers find their way in what may
be unfamiliar territory.

[MI]: agree .. although I'm embarrassed to say that I've found out that
I've been contacted regarding the PDP on the Translation and
Transliteration of Contact Information and have overlooked it !!! thanks
for the kind offer to help .. 

[MI]: will wait one more day, unless otherwise requested, to allow for
more feedback before I forward to the GAC .. Thanks again for your
feedback ..

mikey

On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:24 AM, Manal Ismail <manal at tra.gov.eg> wrote:

Many thanks Marika and Mikey ..

Extremely useful ..

With interim improvements in mind, I believe it may be useful to share
both your messages on the GAC list, please see the attached file ..

Do you, Jonathan or any of our group members feel uncomfortable about
this?

Although I do not expect immediate feedback, yet:

-          I believe it may be useful to share in preparation for our
discussions in Singapore

-          It may trigger a discussion on the best format to receive
such info (a first step towards interim improvements)

-          I hope it may trigger GAC members to join any of the active
working groups

-          In an ideal situation, GAC members joining any of the active
working groups may provide us with real-time feedback to further fine
tune our work 

Please let me know what you think ..

Kind Regards

--Manal

From: gac-gnso-cg-bounces at icann.org
[mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 3:38 PM
To: Marika Konings
Cc: gac-gnso-cg at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Overview of Active GNSO Working Groups

hi Marika,

this is a really cool list - all the PDPs, with the "stage of work"
identified.

i wonder if this could also be sequenced by stage of work too.  that
way, if i'm a person in the GAC that likes to participate in a given
stage, i can see what's in that category.

here's my first try at reordering the list - showing the earliest-stage
PDPs first and the latest-stage PDPs last with an eye to the
desirability of early engagement.  i think this might be a really useful
way to summarize the status of PDP development to the Council as well.

Stage 1: Identify and launch

4.     Amending the Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) and Uniform
Rapid Suspension (URS) procedure to enable access to them by protected
International Governmental Organizations (IGOs) and International
Non-Governmental Organizations (INGOs) - Preliminary Issue Report

Status: Preliminary Issue Report is expected to be published for public
comment by the end of February 2014.

6.     Cross Community Working Groups Non-PDP Drafting Team

Status: the DT is expected to submit the charter for consideration by
the GNSO and ccNSO Council in Sinapore. Following adoption of the
charter, a call for volunteers will be circulated to the community for
participation.

7.     Data & Metrics for Policy Making Non-PDP Working Group

Status: The GNSO Council adopted the charter for the working group in
January 2014 and a call for volunteers has been launched (open to anyone
interested to join). 

Stage 2: Develop consensus

1.    Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues (PPSAI) Policy
Development Process

Status: WG commenced in November 2013. Input has been requested to help
inform its deliberations from all SO/ACs

2.     Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information Policy
Development Process

	Status: WG commenced in December 2013. Input has been requested
to help inform its deliberations from all SO/ACs.

5.     Policy & Implementation Non-PDP Working Group

	Status: The WG started its deliberations in August 2013 and aims
to publish an Initial Report for public comment by October 2014. Input
was requested to help inform its deliberations from all SO/ACs.

Stage 3: Refine and endorse

3.     Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Policy Development
Process

	Status: The Working Group is expected to publish its Initial
Report for public comment prior to the ICANN meeting in Singapore. Input
was requested at the early stages of the WG's deliberations to help
inform its deliberations from all SO/ACs.

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