[Gnso-epdp-team] Rafik as Vice-Chair

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Sat Aug 4 16:38:27 UTC 2018

Dear All,
I do not believe we should get into such detail in scrutinizing a probable
conflict of interest.
In ICG we had to select an independent secretariat we have had similar
argument and counter argument. Finally we opted for someone from .Asia
entity  which in view of some minority group could have had conflict of
interest .
She took up that tasks and did the expected job perfectly with NO CONFLICT
The ICG life was about 2 yeras .The EPDP is less than 10 Months
Perhaps we should agree to Rafic and just waiting rformality ratification
from GNSO Council

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:33 PM Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>

> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 11:37 AM Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>> I actually think we can relax about the apparent conflicts here.
>> Firstly, as has been pointed out, Rafik is running for GNSO Council, as an
>> NCSG representative, but not the head of NCSG.
>> Secondly, of all the people I have met at ICANN who are capable of being
>> neutral (hard to find regarding WHOIS, as previously discussed on council
>> with respect to the potential Chair of this EPDP), Rafik is exemplary.  He
>> takes that duty very seriously.  I think you may depend on him to step
>> aside if there is any conflict in the matter of the Liaison acting as
>> intermediary in leadership complaints.
>> Thirdly, in the matter of the overcoming conflicts or impasses within the
>> work team.  Let us be frank here.  There is no one who has the experience
>> in ICANN who is perfectly neutral.  A leadership position on this or any
>> other GNSO PDP requires neutrality, putting on the hat of the Chair (or, in
>> this case, Vice-Chair) and refraining from offering personal opinions,
>> commentary on the opinions of others, or stakeholder positions.  I can
>> think of some excellent examples of Chairmanship and Vice-Chairmanship
>> (Steve Metalitz as Vice-Chair of the Privacy/Proxy Services Accreditation
>> Issues PDP for instance, or Heather Forrest as current Chair of the GNSO).
>> To suggest that members of the NCSG are not capable of setting aside our
>> own goals and key positions in a similar way is inappropriate.
>> Kind regards,
>> Stephanie Perrin
>> On 2018-08-04 05:21, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>> I asked for time to consult with my colleagues and have done so.
>> We have no problem with Rafik being named Vice-Chair of the EPDP based on
>> the following presumptions/conditions:
>> 1. There is a direct conflict with Rafik acting as the first level
>> handling of a complaint about a leadership decision (a Liaison
>> responsibility) and serving in that leadership. If the GNSO Chair chooses
>> to act in his place in that role (any complaint that stands would go to the
>> Chair next in any case), or to appoint someone else who is will be closely
>> following the proceedings (and agrees not to launch a compliant!), the
>> conflict goes away.
>> 2. Our assumption is that the role of Vice-Chair will be purely to on
>> occasion act as the Chair of a meeting when Kurt is not available, or to
>> handle other administrative tasks. In this case, we see no conflict. If, on
>> the other hand, he and Kurt would take on the role that other
>> Chairs/Co-Chairs/Vice-Chairs teams have and strategize on to how to
>> overcome conflicts or impasses within the work team, then there is a direct
>> conflict as it puts one of the EPDP constituent groups in a privileged
>> position. Although Rafik is not one of the formal members of the NCSG
>> contingent on the EPDP, as a possible incoming NCSG Chair and a key member
>> of the NCSG Policy Committee, he cannot disassociate himself completely
>> from being involved.
>> Alan
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