[Gnso-epdp-team] IPC/BC/RySG and others: requesting an extension on can't live with items

[King, Brian]

Hi Volker,

I understood ‘inserting substantive "can't lives" at the eleventh hour’ to be precisely what we’re supposed to be doing right now.

If it assuages your concerns, I plan to use the additional time to narrow this list as much as possible and to find solutions that are acceptable to all. I assure you that will be done in good faith.

Brian J. King​
Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs, IP Group

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On Jul 10, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:


I would urge all sides to give some deep thought to the question of whether inserting substantive "can't lives" at the eleventh hour is still a good faith move. For any such points that have been previously agreed by all groups, please also consider if your can't live has a snowballs chance in the sahara to be even remotely acceptable to the rest of the community and if raising it is a good use of the limited amount of time we have available or will just waste all of our time.

That said, if the report can be improved by common sense clarifications and little tweaks that can be accepted by all, then that is a good use of our time. Much better in fact than another round of accuracy or legal/natural.

Best,
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:28 PM Anderson, Marc via Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team at icann.org<mailto:gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>> wrote:
I support Brian’s request.  Given the importance and complexity of our work it is important that we take the time to get it right.  Our task is not just to identify can’t live with items and issues with a report that has gone through some fairly significant edits, but also to propose solutions to those can’t live with items.  If we are to be successful this will require internal discussion, but also time to caucus across groups.

Best,
Marc


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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Gnso-epdp-team] IPC/BC/RySG and others: requesting an extension on can't live with items

Hello EPDP Staff and Leadership,

On behalf of the IPC/BC/RySG and other groups who I know feel similarly but with whom we have not yet been able to caucus officially:

We have been diligently working through the report during this silent week, and many of us have found it quite challenging to provide thoughtful and constructive comments on each recommendation in this short a timeframe. While we work recommendation-by-recommendation, many of us are also grappling with the report as a whole, and we need time to confer within our constituencies to understand which are our most pressing “can’t live with” items, and to come up with creative solutions if needed to come to consensus.

We note that many of our most challenging and contentious issues were the ones discussed most recently. Taking just five or so days to review new language on our most important issues with our constituencies has proven to be quite challenging, if not impossible. Frankly, it would not do justice to all the hard work we have put in to get this far if we rush through the most important parts, particularly if consensus will depend on more thoughtful review and constructive conversation.

In light of the difficulty to accomplish substantive review and discussion in the requested timeframe, and with the goal of achieving consensus in Phase 2, we would like to request an additional two weeks to work through our “can’t live with” items. If granted, we can commit to providing thoughtful, constructive suggestions on any remaining items by COB on Friday, July 24.

Thank you for your consideration.

Brian J. King​
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