[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs

Thu Jan 4 00:13:20 UTC 2018

Dear Mary,

I would like to attend the meeting if possible, please can you publish the
details or send me a copy?

Yours sincerely,

Paul.

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:

> Dear George,
>
> This note is to confirm that staff will be going ahead to schedule the
> call between you, Phil and Petter soon, although it will not be before next
> week. Next Thursday is certainly a possibility, so thank you for the
> suggestion. As highlighted previously, the call will be recorded and the
> ICANN Ombudsman invited to attend as an observer.
>
> In line with the message from Heather Forrest, GNSO Chair, sent to this
> mailing list on 24 December 2017, if other PDP Working Group members
> supporting George’s invocation of Section 3.7 would like to attend the
> meeting, please let us know so that we can be sure to send you the call
> details.
>
> Thanks and cheers
> Mary
>
> On 1/2/18, 08:39, "George Kirikos" <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>
>     I'm just following up on the emails of December 21, 2017. Is the
>     Thursday January 4, 2018 date and 12:00 noon (Eastern time) time,
>     corresponding to the usual IGO PDP conference call date/time
>     acceptable? If not, I'd suggest the following week (Thursday January
>     11, 2018 at 12:00 noon Eastern time) as an alternative.
>
>     Please advise before the end of the business day today.
>
>     Sincerely,
>
>     George Kirikos
>     416-588-0269
>     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
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>
>
>     On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 5:08 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
> wrote:
>     > Hi folks,
>     >
>     > I received the following email off-list, but I believe it is of
>     > interest to the entire PDP working group membership. I'm ready to
>     > proceed on a call in early January. I believe we already had a call
>     > scheduled at our normal time on Thursday, January 4, 2018, so it
> would
>     > make sense to discuss things at that time. That call should be made
>     > open to all interested members of this PDP, just like our regular
>     > meetings via Adobe Connect, etc.. It's not a concern that is unique
> to
>     > me.
>     >
>     > I of course do not withdraw the appeal.
>     >
>     > I find it interesting that this email was sent very shortly after I
>     > sent my most email (which cc'd Ms. Forrest). If you have time, please
>     > explain why you could not have sent the exact same email 2 days ago
> or
>     > even yesterday? What "new information" do you have now that you
> didn't
>     > have 2 days ago?
>     >
>     > Lastly, I believe the **entire membership** of this PDP should have
>     > the opportunity to consult with the GNSO Council, in order to ensure
>     > that all views are heard, not just the voices of the co-chairs.
> Please
>     > ensure that all communications between the co-chairs and the GNSO
>     > Council are also copied to the public mailing list of this IGO PDP so
>     > that they are "on the record", in accordance with ICANN's
> transparency
>     > and accountability mechanisms.
>     >
>     > Sincerely,
>     >
>     > George Kirikos
>     > 416-588-0269
>     > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
> leap.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6
> sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=_ScY_
> DyFMMJfUercd5VM8RPKzrDDNzVQHe3Hu2idYpI&s=XC5VETDOsHh2D6-
> W5YTRqueB9blSgkSuG-27KuOy3rM&e=
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
> wrote:
>     >> Dear George,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> This email is being sent by ICANN staff on behalf of Phil and
> Petter, the
>     >> co-chairs of the IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights PDP Working
> Group.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Dear George,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> We note that, in your email dated 19th December 2017 and sent to the
>     >> IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Working Group mailing list, you
> stated
>     >> that you were invoking the appeal process outlined in Section 3.7
> of the
>     >> GNSO Working Group Guidelines
>     >> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__gnso.icann.org_en_council_annex-2D1-2Dgnso-2Dwg-
> 2Dguidelines-2D01sep16-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6
> sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=_ScY_
> DyFMMJfUercd5VM8RPKzrDDNzVQHe3Hu2idYpI&s=EKMDgdmplJDij8lRe37OCiPmP52jdJ
> HC-BmJ3KXaYKI&e=).
>     >> That section provides, in relevant part, that a “WG member that
> believes
>     >> that his/her contributions are being systematically ignored or
> discounted …
>     >> should first discuss the circumstances with the WG Chair. In the
> event that
>     >> the matter cannot be resolved satisfactorily, the WG member should
> request
>     >> an opportunity to discuss the situation with the Chair of the
> Chartering
>     >> Organization or their designated representative.” As the co-chairs
> of this
>     >> Working Group, we therefore invite you to do a call with us in
> early January
>     >> 2018. The call will be recorded and, given the nature of the
> matters that
>     >> you have raised on the mailing list concerning our handling of the
> Working
>     >> Group’s progress toward a consensus call, the ICANN Ombudsman will
> be
>     >> invited to sit in on the call.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Concurrently, we will be consulting the GNSO Council on the
> questions that
>     >> you and other Working Group members have asked regarding Working
> Group
>     >> consensus calls. As a result, we will not be conducting any
> meetings of the
>     >> Working Group or launching a poll as a basis for subsequent
> initiation of
>     >> the consensus call process until we have had the opportunity to
> consult the
>     >> Council which, as our Chartering Organization, is the manager of
> all GNSO
>     >> Policy Development Processes.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Please let us know if you wish to proceed with the call with us, as
>     >> prescribed by Section 3.7 of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines. If
> so, we
>     >> will ask ICANN staff to find a mutually suitable time in early
> January 2018.
>     >> If you do not wish to proceed with the call, we will consider it a
>     >> withdrawal of your appeal.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Best regards,
>     >>
>     >> Philip and Petter
>     >>
>     >>
>
>
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