[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs
George Kirikos
icann at leap.com
Fri Jan 5 23:33:43 UTC 2018
Just confirming receipt of the invitation to a call on Thursday, 11
January 2018 at 17:00 UTC for 60 minutes.
(09:00 PST, 12:00 EST, 17:00 London GMT, 18:00 Paris CET) that I was
sent off-list. If others interested in the Section 3.7 appeal want to
attend, presumably they can contact ICANN Staff (Mary, etc.) for the
relevant passcode/invite and call-in details.
Have a nice weekend!
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
416-588-0269
http://www.leap.com/
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Paul Tattersfield <gpmgroup at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mary,
>
> I would like to attend the meeting if possible, please can you publish the
> details or send me a copy?
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> Paul.
>
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear George,
>>
>> This note is to confirm that staff will be going ahead to schedule the
>> call between you, Phil and Petter soon, although it will not be before next
>> week. Next Thursday is certainly a possibility, so thank you for the
>> suggestion. As highlighted previously, the call will be recorded and the
>> ICANN Ombudsman invited to attend as an observer.
>>
>> In line with the message from Heather Forrest, GNSO Chair, sent to this
>> mailing list on 24 December 2017, if other PDP Working Group members
>> supporting George’s invocation of Section 3.7 would like to attend the
>> meeting, please let us know so that we can be sure to send you the call
>> details.
>>
>> Thanks and cheers
>> Mary
>>
>> On 1/2/18, 08:39, "George Kirikos" <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm just following up on the emails of December 21, 2017. Is the
>> Thursday January 4, 2018 date and 12:00 noon (Eastern time) time,
>> corresponding to the usual IGO PDP conference call date/time
>> acceptable? If not, I'd suggest the following week (Thursday January
>> 11, 2018 at 12:00 noon Eastern time) as an alternative.
>>
>> Please advise before the end of the business day today.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> George Kirikos
>> 416-588-0269
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=_ScY_DyFMMJfUercd5VM8RPKzrDDNzVQHe3Hu2idYpI&s=XC5VETDOsHh2D6-W5YTRqueB9blSgkSuG-27KuOy3rM&e=
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 5:08 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > I received the following email off-list, but I believe it is of
>> > interest to the entire PDP working group membership. I'm ready to
>> > proceed on a call in early January. I believe we already had a call
>> > scheduled at our normal time on Thursday, January 4, 2018, so it
>> would
>> > make sense to discuss things at that time. That call should be made
>> > open to all interested members of this PDP, just like our regular
>> > meetings via Adobe Connect, etc.. It's not a concern that is unique
>> to
>> > me.
>> >
>> > I of course do not withdraw the appeal.
>> >
>> > I find it interesting that this email was sent very shortly after I
>> > sent my most email (which cc'd Ms. Forrest). If you have time,
>> please
>> > explain why you could not have sent the exact same email 2 days ago
>> or
>> > even yesterday? What "new information" do you have now that you
>> didn't
>> > have 2 days ago?
>> >
>> > Lastly, I believe the **entire membership** of this PDP should have
>> > the opportunity to consult with the GNSO Council, in order to ensure
>> > that all views are heard, not just the voices of the co-chairs.
>> Please
>> > ensure that all communications between the co-chairs and the GNSO
>> > Council are also copied to the public mailing list of this IGO PDP
>> so
>> > that they are "on the record", in accordance with ICANN's
>> transparency
>> > and accountability mechanisms.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > George Kirikos
>> > 416-588-0269
>> >
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=_ScY_DyFMMJfUercd5VM8RPKzrDDNzVQHe3Hu2idYpI&s=XC5VETDOsHh2D6-W5YTRqueB9blSgkSuG-27KuOy3rM&e=
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> Dear George,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This email is being sent by ICANN staff on behalf of Phil and
>> Petter, the
>> >> co-chairs of the IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights PDP Working
>> Group.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dear George,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We note that, in your email dated 19th December 2017 and sent to
>> the
>> >> IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Working Group mailing list, you
>> stated
>> >> that you were invoking the appeal process outlined in Section 3.7
>> of the
>> >> GNSO Working Group Guidelines
>> >>
>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_council_annex-2D1-2Dgnso-2Dwg-2Dguidelines-2D01sep16-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=_ScY_DyFMMJfUercd5VM8RPKzrDDNzVQHe3Hu2idYpI&s=EKMDgdmplJDij8lRe37OCiPmP52jdJHC-BmJ3KXaYKI&e=).
>> >> That section provides, in relevant part, that a “WG member that
>> believes
>> >> that his/her contributions are being systematically ignored or
>> discounted …
>> >> should first discuss the circumstances with the WG Chair. In the
>> event that
>> >> the matter cannot be resolved satisfactorily, the WG member should
>> request
>> >> an opportunity to discuss the situation with the Chair of the
>> Chartering
>> >> Organization or their designated representative.” As the co-chairs
>> of this
>> >> Working Group, we therefore invite you to do a call with us in
>> early January
>> >> 2018. The call will be recorded and, given the nature of the
>> matters that
>> >> you have raised on the mailing list concerning our handling of the
>> Working
>> >> Group’s progress toward a consensus call, the ICANN Ombudsman will
>> be
>> >> invited to sit in on the call.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Concurrently, we will be consulting the GNSO Council on the
>> questions that
>> >> you and other Working Group members have asked regarding Working
>> Group
>> >> consensus calls. As a result, we will not be conducting any
>> meetings of the
>> >> Working Group or launching a poll as a basis for subsequent
>> initiation of
>> >> the consensus call process until we have had the opportunity to
>> consult the
>> >> Council which, as our Chartering Organization, is the manager of
>> all GNSO
>> >> Policy Development Processes.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Please let us know if you wish to proceed with the call with us, as
>> >> prescribed by Section 3.7 of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines. If
>> so, we
>> >> will ask ICANN staff to find a mutually suitable time in early
>> January 2018.
>> >> If you do not wish to proceed with the call, we will consider it a
>> >> withdrawal of your appeal.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Philip and Petter
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
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