[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs

[Mike Rodenbaugh]

Agreed this is ridiculous.  Does anyone except Petter and Phil support an
anonymous poll of this WG?  I don't recall seeing any other support for it,
so I am flabbergasted by their extraordinary efforts to force one on the WG.

Mike Rodenbaugh
RODENBAUGH LAW
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Paul Keating <paul at law.es> wrote:

> My 2 cents.
>
> Respectfully, this bickering must stop and we need to focus on resolution.
>
>
> The underlying dispute was the objection to the use of an anonymous poll.
> The main objection (at least from my understanding) was the anonymous part
> which leads to inaccuracies and potential abuse.
>
> What was supposed to be a constructive attempt to resolve the dispute
> informally became embroiled in procedural objections.   Instead of making
> an effort to resolve conflict by listening to the objections involved in
> the appeal, the substantive discussion was aborted so a “record” could be
> created.
>
> The result was a continued delay of the matter.
>
> Of course this also means that the WG CONTINUES TO BE STALLED.  Why the
> process must be stalled because of the insistence to use anonymous polling
> is rather confusing to me.  It would appear that time is better spent
> actually moving forward and seeking to determine consensus in an open and
> transparent manner.
>
> As said, my 2 cents.
>
> Paul Keating
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 12 Jan 2018, at 18:17, Corwin, Philip via Gnso-igo-ingo-crp <
> gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org> wrote:
>
> The call transcript can be found at https://community.icann.org/
> download/attachments/79429635/transcript%20Discussion%
> 20George%E2%80%99s%20appeal%20under%20section%203%207%
> 20GNSO%20WG%20guidelines%20%2011%20Jan%202018.pdf?version=
> 1&modificationDate=1515769818000&api=v2
>
> For the record, I disagree with George's characterization that he was
> "interrupted immediately".
>
> What occurred was that George submitted a 12-page document with 28
> footnotes that arrived by email just 76 minutes prior to the start of the
> call. I had no opportunity to read much less consider its content prior to
> the call.
>
> When the call commenced I asked for mutual agreement that, given the
> length of the document and the fact that it arrived without advance notice,
> the co-chairs be accorded the courtesy of being given a few days after
> conclusion of the call to fully consider its contents and to respond in
> writing if they wished to do so. I expected this request to be
> noncontroversial but it proved otherwise.
>
> Philip S. Corwin
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gnso-igo-ingo-crp [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org
> <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of George Kirikos
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:09 AM
> To: gnso-igo-ingo-. <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the
> IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs
>
> Hi folks,
>
> The archive of yesterday's call, to appeal the use of anonymous polling
> within this working group has been posted by ICANN. Notice how my
> presentation was interrupted immediately, and then we got completely bogged
> down by process issues. Another call is scheduled for next week.
>
> https://community.icann.org/display/...+Working+Group
>
> [The best link to use is the "AC Recording" (shows the chatroom, and
> audio, as well as ability to jump back/forth using the controls at the
> bottom).]
>
> Have a nice weekend!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> 416-588-0269 <(416)%20588-0269>
> http://www.leap.com/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:43 AM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
> In the spirit of transparency, attached is documentation for the basis
>
> of the Section 3.7 appeal (meeting today at noon Eastern time, as
>
> previously noted), for the benefit of all members of this PDP.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> George Kirikos
>
> 416-588-0269 <(416)%20588-0269>
>
> http://www.leap.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>
> Just confirming receipt of the invitation to a call on Thursday, 11
>
> January 2018 at 17:00 UTC for 60 minutes.
>
> (09:00 PST, 12:00 EST, 17:00 London GMT, 18:00 Paris CET) that I was
>
> sent off-list. If others interested in the Section 3.7 appeal want to
>
> attend, presumably they can contact ICANN Staff (Mary, etc.) for the
>
> relevant passcode/invite and call-in details.
>
>
> Have a nice weekend!
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> George Kirikos
>
> 416-588-0269 <(416)%20588-0269>
>
> http://www.leap.com/
>
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