[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next week's meeting

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Sat Apr 23 12:16:27 UTC 2016


I will also be an apology.  I have conflicting meetings.
Stephanie Perrin

On 2016-04-22 0:22, Holly Raiche wrote:
> Hi
> I’ll be an apology for this meeting
>
> Holly
> On 22 Apr 2016, at 3:57 am, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org 
> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Not having heard any objections, we’ll go ahead and re-organise next 
>> week’s meeting as follows:
>>
>>   * 15.30 – 16.15 UTC Data Sub-Team
>>   * 16.15 – 17.00 UTC Privacy Sub-Team
>>   * 17.00 – 17.45 UTC Purpose Sub-Team
>>
>>
>> Note that this will be scheduled as one call (same dial in number and 
>> AC room) to facilitate participation for those that are involved in 
>> multiple sub-teams, but there is no obligation for WG members to 
>> attend all three sub-team meetings, unless you would like to. 
>> However, if you are not a member of a sub-team but would like to 
>> join, you are encouraged to participate as an observer to allow ample 
>> opportunity for the sub-team to progress in its work.
>>
>> Call details will be sent out in a separate email. Please ignore the 
>> notice that went out earlier today for the ‘normal’ WG meeting.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marika
>>
>> From:<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org 
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Marika 
>> Konings <marika.konings at icann.org <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>
>> Date:Wednesday 20 April 2016 at 13:16
>> To:"Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>, 
>> "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>" 
>> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> Subject:Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes & Action items from today's meeting
>>
>> Dear Steve,
>>
>> The proposal is indeed to have 45-minute calls for each of the 
>> sub-teams that are to be scheduled consecutively around the time of 
>> the normal WG meeting as the assumption is that people have kept that 
>> time free in their diaries. Of course, for some that are involved in 
>> multiple sub-teams as well as staff, it may mean up to a 135-minute 
>> meeting.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Marika
>>
>> From:"Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>
>> Date:Wednesday 20 April 2016 at 13:00
>> To:Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org 
>> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org 
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org 
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> Subject:RE: Notes & Action items from today's meeting
>>
>> I am not sure I understand the proposal but would not be in favor of 
>> having a 135-minute WG call next week.  However, it may make sense to 
>> schedule 45-minute calls for each of the subteams as they all have a 
>> lot of work to complete.  These could be scheduled consecutively, or 
>> in another pattern, so long as not overlapping (for those who are on 
>> more than one subteam).
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>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>[mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org]*On 
>> Behalf Of*Marika Konings
>> *Sent:*Wednesday, April 20, 2016 2:04 AM
>> *To:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>> *Subject:*[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes & Action items from today's meeting
>> Dear All,
>> Please find below the notes and action items from today’s RDS PDP 
>> Working Group meeting. Please take particular note of action item #8 
>> which requires your input within the next 48 hours.
>> Best regards,
>> Marika
>> *Notes & Action items - 20 April 2016*
>> /1. Roll call / SOIs/
>>
>>   * Roll call will be taken from Adobe Connect
>>   * Update to SOIs: Susan Kawaguchi - Facebook has acquired a
>>     registrar. Will update SOI shortly to reflect this.
>>
>> /2. Report from each small team: Privacy, Data, Purpose/
>> *Purpose team*: See checklist circulated. A couple more documents are 
>> in the process of being reviewed, many have already been submitted. 
>> Aim to have everything completed in next 48 hours. Initial 
>> discussions have started on what are the most important documents and 
>> rationale for why these are the most important. These include so far:
>>
>>   * EWG Recommendations - identified very clearly purposes behind
>>     data use (see relevant sections)
>>   * 2012 WHOIS Policy Review Team Report
>>   * SAC055
>>   * 2007 GAC Communique regarding WHOIS
>>   * 2013 RAA - includes specific uses by registrars
>>   * Article 29 WP opinion (03/2003) on purpose limitation
>>   * Article 29 WP on ICANN Procedure for Handling WHOIS Conflicts
>>     with Privacy Law (2007)
>>   * Article 29 WP on legitimate interests of data controller (2014)
>>
>> Many of the other documents were interesting and somewhat related, 
>> but didn't specificly identify potential purposes.
>> *Action item #1*: Sub-team to try and reach rough consensus in the 
>> next week on a list of the most important documents related to purpose
>> *Action item #2*: pull out some very short bullet points of the main 
>> value and points made in these most important document from the summaries
>> *Data team*: The lines between data and privacy and data and purpose 
>> aren't always clear in the documents reviewed. Issue of European Data 
>> Protection legislation has been flagged - moving target at the moment 
>> with new legislation under consideration. Most if not all documents 
>> have now been summarised. Initial discussions have started on what 
>> are the most important documents and rationale for why these are the 
>> most important. These include so far:
>>
>>   * Whois Task Force Final Report
>>   * SAC 054
>>   * EWG Recommendations, including tutorials and FAQs
>>   * RA Spec 4
>>
>> What are next steps? Fact that some things are still evolving, such 
>> as laws and regulation, it is something to be conscious of, but no 
>> need to worry about too much at this stage as some items only come 
>> back in later phases of the PDP..
>> *Action item #3*: Sub-team to try and reach rough consensus in the 
>> next week on a list of the most important documents related to purpose
>> *Action item #4:*pull out some very short bullet points of the main 
>> value and points made in these most important document from the summaries
>> *Privacy team*: Number of summaries have already come in. Initial 
>> discussions have started on what are the most important documents and 
>> rationale for why these are the most important. These include so far:
>>
>>   * SAC 054
>>   * EWG Recommendations
>>
>> *Action item #5*: Sub-team to try and reach rough consensus in the 
>> next week on a list of the most important documents related to purpose
>> *Action item #6*: pull out some very short bullet points of the main 
>> value and points made in these most important document from the summaries
>> /3. Confirm next steps and target date to complete small team outputs/
>>
>>   * Small team outputs are more than most important documents. List
>>     of questions have been circulated (see 'plan to consolidate
>>     summaries and complete & present team outputs')
>>   * Each team encouraged to provide their feedback to these questions
>>     in the next week.
>>   * Sub-teams will need to verify summaries submitted to ensure
>>     nothing was missed. In the case of some documents, it may be
>>     difficult to only have a few bullet points. However, bullet
>>     points may help guide full WG in a concise way but recognising
>>     that the WG may need to dig into the full details at some point.
>>   * Staff will consolidate summaries into one document for each
>>     sub-team. Some summaries are uneven depending on the expertise of
>>     the members of the team - those with specific expertise or where
>>     involved in the development of these documents, are encouraged to
>>     review the summaries.
>>   * Focus on relevance of the work for the PDP, not necessarily
>>     overall importance / relevance in a broader context.
>>   * Be careful to not jump ahead in relation to conclusions and
>>     blending issues. Maybe first two teams could look at purpose and
>>     data without looking at privacy concerns and not mix things?
>>     Leave privacy considerations to privacy sub-team and not blend at
>>     this stage.
>>
>> *Action item #7*: Those with specific expertise and/or those who 
>> where involved in the development of some of these documents, are 
>> encouraged to review the summaries to ensure that the key points have 
>> been included and correctly covered.
>> /4. Confirm next meeting date (Tuesday, 26 April  - may be used for 
>> small team calls)/
>>
>>   * Suggestion for next week's meeting to add a little bit of time
>>     before and after (135 minutes total) to allow for each of the
>>     three teams to have 45 minutes to finalise responses to
>>     questions. This will require each of the sub-teams to have done
>>     work on the mailing list prior to the call.
>>   * Put this suggestion forward to the mailing list to request input.
>>   * What needs to happen prior to the next meeting: few summaries
>>     missing from each team - these will need to be submitted (staff
>>     will send out reminders), consolidated summary documents will be
>>     produced in the next few days for sub-team reviews, sub-teams to
>>     agree on most relevant documents as well as other questions
>>     identified, review summaries and pull out key points from these
>>     most relevant documents. Next step would be to finalise work
>>     plan. Ideally the WG will be able to complete this part of the
>>     work shortly so it can move into the actual deliberations and
>>     development of requirements.
>>
>> *Action item #8*: WG members to provide feedback on this proposed 
>> approach within next 48 hours so that ample notification can be 
>> provided in relation to next week's meeting.
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