[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose

[Chris Pelling]

HI Dick, 

I think you will find that all registrars will already strive for accuracy as best they can, certainly when it comes to email address and/or phone depending on what they use to validate. 

In your point regarding reaching you by phone or email, I sort of agree, but disagree, if someone truly (and this is in respect to you as you stated yourself) wants to get hold of you, a very small bit of investigation with Google would give Ripe's number and a call to Ripe would in one way shapr or another get ahold of you. -- Edge case I know, but I was directly responding to that point. 

I suppose at some point in the future I am sure the same discussions our group is having will trickle down the IANA side of things in relation to RiR's moving over to RDS and having the same data issues we are currently discussing. :) 

Kind regards, 

Chris 


From: "Richard Leaning" <rleaning at ripe.net> 
To: "Michele Neylon" <michele at blacknight.com> 
Cc: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> 
Sent: Sunday, 9 October, 2016 18:09:39 
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose 

Michele, 

I don't disagree with you. There will always be scenarios where common sense prevails. 

But if you want to phone me you will need the accurate number - not something that looks like my number. 

If you want to respond to me about these comments, you will need the accurate email address not something that is sort of my email address. 

All am saying is we should strive for accuracy knowing that we may not achieve it but at least let's try. 

Cheers 

Dick 

Richard Leaning 
RIPE NCC 
External Relations 
(Sent by iPhone) 

On 9 Oct 2016, at 13:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele at blacknight.com > wrote: 






Dick 



Sorry, but that’s absolutely untrue. So I agree with Greg. 



I have been getting postal mail for more than 30 years and over that period my name, my gender and my address have been listed inaccurately hundreds of times. 

Yet the postal services in the various countries that I’ve lived in have been able to get the mail to me. 



There is a very big difference between “functional” and “accurate”. 



As others have pointed out, it’s often impossible to provide 100% accurate addresses on web forms etc., Try updating your ESTA for a visit to the US and you’ll find 9 times out of 10 that the address form doesn’t allow enough space for the hotel name and address. But if you provide the hotel name the authorities will know exactly where you are without the full address. 



Our office address, for example, lists us as being in Carlow. If you actually looked at a map you’d see that we aren’t in Carlow, but in Laois. 



Regards 



Michele 




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From: < gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org > on behalf of Richard Leaning < rleaning at ripe.net > 
Date: Friday 7 October 2016 at 19:20 
To: Greg Shatan < gregshatanipc at gmail.com > 
Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg < gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org > 
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose 





Thats Greg for articulating it so well. 





all i was going to say was - 





'You can’t contact someone if the contact information is inaccurate’ 





So i can’t see how you can split the two. 





Richard Leaning 


External Relations 


RIPE NCC 






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