[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose

Mon Oct 10 08:41:48 UTC 2016

I still do not agree: A phone n umber may be technically incorrect but 
still functional.

Consider these examples:

0049-1234-56789
+49-123456789
+49.0123456789
0049(0)123456789

and variations thereof.

All of these numbers will be readily usabla for anyone with half a brain 
cell, yet each and every one of these numbers is inaccurate under 
wcurrent whois policies.
For reference, this would be the "correct" number:

+49.123456789

So what does this tell us? It tells me that on the march to accuracy, we 
will create more issues than we will solve.

I have seen mail delivered to horribly spelled addresses, yet otoh, I 
have also seen time and again that mail sent to perfectly correct 
addresses was not delivered, because the postman could not find it (for 
example because the entrance to a building in one street actually was 
located around the corner in another street) and the mail was returned 
undelivered.

Best,

Volker

Am 09.10.2016 um 19:09 schrieb Richard Leaning:
> Michele,
>
> I don't disagree with you. There will always be scenarios where common 
> sense prevails.
>
> But if you want to phone me you will need the accurate number - not 
> something that looks like my number.
>
> If you want to respond to me about these comments, you will need the 
> accurate email address not something that is sort of my email address.
>
> All am saying is we should strive for accuracy knowing that we may not 
> achieve it but at least let's try.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dick
>
> Richard Leaning
> RIPE NCC
> External Relations
> (Sent by iPhone)
>
> On 9 Oct 2016, at 13:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight 
> <michele at blacknight.com <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
>
>> Dick
>>
>> Sorry, but that’s absolutely untrue. So I agree with Greg.
>>
>> I have been getting postal mail for more than 30 years and over that 
>> period my name, my gender and my address have been listed 
>> inaccurately hundreds of times.
>>
>> Yet the postal services in the various countries that I’ve lived in 
>> have been able to get the mail to me.
>>
>> There is a very big difference between “functional” and “accurate”.
>>
>> As others have pointed out, it’s often impossible to provide 100% 
>> accurate addresses on web forms etc., Try updating your ESTA for a 
>> visit to the US and you’ll find 9 times out of 10 that the address 
>> form doesn’t allow enough space for the hotel name and address. But 
>> if you provide the hotel name the authorities will know exactly where 
>> you are without the full address.
>>
>> Our office address, for example, lists us as being in Carlow. If you 
>> actually looked at a map you’d see that we aren’t in Carlow, but in 
>> Laois.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Michele
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mr Michele Neylon
>>
>> Blacknight Solutions
>>
>> Hosting, Colocation & Domains
>>
>> http://www.blacknight.host/
>>
>> http://blacknight.blog/
>>
>> http://ceo.hosting/
>>
>> Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
>>
>> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business 
>> Park,Sleaty
>>
>> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,
>>
>> Ireland  Company No.: 370845
>>
>> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org 
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Richard 
>> Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net <mailto:rleaning at ripe.net>>
>> *Date: *Friday 7 October 2016 at 19:20
>> *To: *Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
>> *Cc: *gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org 
>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS 
>> Statement of Purpose
>>
>> Thats Greg for articulating it so well.
>>
>> all i was going to say was  -
>>
>> 'You can’t contact someone if the contact information is inaccurate’
>>
>> So i can’t see how you can split the two.
>>
>> Richard Leaning
>>
>> External Relations
>>
>> RIPE NCC
>>
>
>
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