[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] RDS Statement of Purpose

[Chris Pelling]

I would have to agree here with James, control of the domain has no relevance to if it exists in the DNS Zone or not. 

The registrant could remove the nameservers entirely - its removed from the zone servers, but, the registrant still has "control" over the domain name. 

Kind regards, 

Chris 


From: "James Galvin" <jgalvin at afilias.info> 
To: "Michael D. Palage" <michael at palage.com> 
Cc: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> 
Sent: Friday, 9 September, 2016 15:32:07 
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] RDS Statement of Purpose 

On 9 Sep 2016, at 9:46, Michael D. Palage wrote: 

> During this Pending Create period the registrant has no control over 
> the domain name as it does not appear in the zone file, but does 
> appear in publicly available Whois data. 

I think this is the most important point in your comment Michael. 

Your statement asserts that registrant “control” of a domain name is 
dependent on whether or not the domain name appears in the zone file. 

While you provide an excellent example in support of this in your 
description of pendingCreate, I believe your assertion to tightly-couple 
“control” with “zone presence” is inappropriate. 

There are several statuses during which a domain name will not appear in 
a zone file and a registrant still has primary “control” of a domain 
name, e.g., pendingDelete, at which time a registrant could take action 
to get a domain name restored. I consider this “control” in this 
case because no other registrant can acquire the domain name during this 
period. 

I would propose another way to think about pendingCreate as follows: 

First, I am not going to speak to the question of access to data via 
directory services at this time. That is a separate discussion we are 
not having yet. This discussion is strictly about the purpose of 
registration data. 

In a pendingCreate situation where more than one registrant may have 
asserted the create event, all of the aforementioned registrants share 
the “control” of a domain name. This “control” must be resolved 
to a single registrant before the pendingCreate expires or the create 
event itself expires and the domain name is returned to the “available 
pool”, i.e., all registrants lose “control” of a domain name. 

Jim 
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