[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The burden of proof (was Re: Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access)

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> On 1 Jun 2017, at 14:48, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 11:25:55AM +0200, Volker Greimann wrote:
>> Even if there if no PII in thin data (and I am leaning to that direction
>> myself), if there really a need for all these fields to be public for the
>> purpose of the operationality of the internet? I am thinking of the created,
>> updated and expiration dates in particular since those are the ones leading
>> to the most abusive use.
> 
> I think I have argued, previously at some length and more briefly in
> this thread, how those fields are useful and important for the
> operational model of the Internet that prevails because of the
> fundamentally distributed naturue of the Internet.  You have offered
> not one shred of evidence that those fields in particular are "abused"
> (the abuse, if it happens, comes from email, and we're talking about
> thin data so no email addresses are involved).  And you have not
> addressed the argument about how the Internet works.
> 
> I therefore believe that, if you want anyone to take seriously the
> idea that we need to discuss any of the thin data any more, the burden
> of proof lies on you.  Please either make such an argument, or let us
> finally move on to discussing data where everyone acknowledges there
> is a more serious issue.
> 
> In my opinion, we have spent long enough discussing the "simple" case
> and artificially making it complicated.  It's time to move on to a
> real problem.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> A
> 
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