[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The burden of proof (was Re: Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access)

[Carlton Samuels]

+++++1.  I am gobsmacked wondering why we're back at litigating what is
'thin data'? For the wackiest of hard-line European privacy maven has
conceded the sense of it!!

Christ on a bike. Talk about comfort to the afflicted!!

-Carlton


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On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 11:25:55AM +0200, Volker Greimann wrote:
> > Even if there if no PII in thin data (and I am leaning to that direction
> > myself), if there really a need for all these fields to be public for the
> > purpose of the operationality of the internet? I am thinking of the
> created,
> > updated and expiration dates in particular since those are the ones
> leading
> > to the most abusive use.
>
> I think I have argued, previously at some length and more briefly in
> this thread, how those fields are useful and important for the
> operational model of the Internet that prevails because of the
> fundamentally distributed naturue of the Internet.  You have offered
> not one shred of evidence that those fields in particular are "abused"
> (the abuse, if it happens, comes from email, and we're talking about
> thin data so no email addresses are involved).  And you have not
> addressed the argument about how the Internet works.
>
> I therefore believe that, if you want anyone to take seriously the
> idea that we need to discuss any of the thin data any more, the burden
> of proof lies on you.  Please either make such an argument, or let us
> finally move on to discussing data where everyone acknowledges there
> is a more serious issue.
>
> In my opinion, we have spent long enough discussing the "simple" case
> and artificially making it complicated.  It's time to move on to a
> real problem.
>
> Best regards,
>
> A
>
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