[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Purpose in accordance with Registry Agreement section 2.18

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Tue Jun 6 09:24:10 UTC 2017


If you can differentiate the use that a domain isgoing to be put to at 
the time of registration with sufficient accuracy, you are due for an an 
award ;-)

Best,

Volker



Am 02.06.2017 um 22:15 schrieb Dotzero:
> The overwhelming majority of domains registered would be considered 
> for commercial purposes. The fact that a small percentage of domains 
> are registered by individuals for personal use should not be the 
> determining factor as to what is appropriate for ICANN to do. In fact, 
> many of what people assert are personal domains have advertising on 
> them and would therefor be considered by almost any jurisdiction to be 
> engaged in a commercial activity. This includes many (most?) parked 
> domains.
>
> Under these circumstances, having disclosure requirement in 
> registry/registrar agreements seems very appropriate and reasonable. 
> Adding in the fact that "private registration" is an option reduces 
> the scope of the issue even further.
>
> This is starting to increasingly look like a case of throwing the baby 
> out with the bath water.
>
> Michael Hammer
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Stephanie Perrin 
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>
>     This clause has not been acceptable in the past, even before
>     GDPR.  I think it is worth pointing out that what is in the ICANN
>     agreements has been repeatedly pointed out, notably by the Art 29
>     WG, but certainly by others such as the IWGDPT, as violating DP
>     law. These documents I believe are all in our repository.  So
>     please let us not assume that what has been happening is ok, even
>     if we sign contract after contract with the same offending clauses
>     in them.  Consent in most jurisdictions has to be some variant of
>     "free, enlightened, and informed".  Noone can be compelled to
>     consent to a practice that is disproportionate or fails the
>     necessity test...An ability to withdraw consent has to be
>     available.  I won't go on and on but this clause obviously does
>     not pass this test.
>
>     In my opinion, the longer ICANN tries to stymie the DPAs and
>     ignore necessary changes in privacy policy, the greater the risk
>     they run that a viral campaign will be launched among ordinary
>     users, to appeal to the Courts.  DPAs try to effect change through
>     dialogue.  WHen dialogue fails, individuals have to take cases to
>     Court.  We don't want that.
>
>     Stephanie
>
>
>     On 2017-06-02 08:19, Volker Greimann wrote:
>>     I was just reviewing the changes to the registry agreement again
>>     and I noticed a section that has relevance here as well and that
>>     had not been discussed here.
>>
>>     Apparently the definition of the purpose for personal data
>>     collection as far as ICANN is concerned is the job of the
>>     registry operators:
>>
>>     2.18 Personal Data. Registry Operator shall (i) notify each
>>     ICANN-accredited registrar that is a party to the
>>     Registry-Registrar Agreement for the TLD of the purposes for
>>     which data about any identified or identifiable natural person
>>     (“Personal Data”) submitted to Registry Operator by such
>>     registrar is collected and used under this Agreement or otherwise
>>     and the intended recipients (or categories of recipients) of such
>>     Personal Data, and (ii) require such registrar to obtain the
>>     consent of each registrant in the TLD for such collection and use
>>     of Personal Data. Registry Operator shall take reasonable steps
>>     to protect Personal Data collected from such registrar from loss,
>>     misuse, unauthorized disclosure, alteration or destruction.
>>     Registry Operator shall not use or authorize the use of Personal
>>     Data in a way that is incompatible with the notice provided to
>>     registrars.
>>
>>     This does have some relevance to our current discussion, so I
>>     thought I'd recklessly post it here!
>>
>>
>
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