[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dutch DPA rules public WHOIS data is against the law. EU/NL

Theo Geurts gtheo at xs4all.nl
Mon Oct 30 04:13:18 UTC 2017


Hi John,

You are correct, seems the politicians I voted for are shooting for a 
law that will give the Dutch intelligence agency far-reaching powers.

But this is a political process, and as political processes go, it is 
already opposed by a large majority of the general public here.
So we are going to enjoy the debate here in Holland for the next 6 
months or so ;)

Thanks,

Theo
On 29-10-2017 22:51, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:
> Counterpoint before we start celebrating the Dutch approach to 
> privacy: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1408647
>
>
>
> -- 
> John Bambenek
>
> On Oct 27, 2017, at 04:23, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net 
> <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>
>> Wow, this is harsh. Nothing unexpected though, as they are basically 
>> just telling you what we have repreatedly tried telling folks at 
>> ICANN for years.
>>
>> This is why our work is so important. If we do not do it well, Whois 
>> will go dark! Not out of malice or because of any nefarious ill will, 
>> but out of pure legal necessity.
>>
>> The abuse lobbyists may not like these legal requirements, but we 
>> will have to live with them and act accordingly. .Amsterdam did what 
>> they did because they had to, not because they felt like it.
>>
>> Volker
>>
>>
>> Am 27.10.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Theo Geurts:
>>> https://autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/nl/nieuws/ap-onafgeschermde-publicatie-van-whois-gegevens-strijd-met-de-wet 
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, for now Dutch only, but Google translate will help out.
>>>
>>> Also, consent (Art 6.1b) is a no go according to the Dutch DPA. As 
>>> it is not freely given according to the article.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Theo Geurts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>> -- 
>> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
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