[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next Gen RDS - Update from Leadership Team

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Thu Oct 11 15:04:23 UTC 2018


Believe what you want, but we do not want WHOIS to die. We want to 
replace it with something legal, that works.

Best,

Volker


Am 11.10.2018 um 17:01 schrieb John Bambenek:
> Let me finish that for you.
>
> ... then we get what we want and whois dies.
>
> The temp spec is largely unusable to those who actually use such 
> things. Just killing it would at least be honest.
>
> -- 
> John Bambenek
>
> On Oct 11, 2018, at 09:57, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net 
> <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>
>> None of us, but the Temp Spec is on a timer and if it runs out before 
>> there is a solution...
>>
>>
>> Am 11.10.2018 um 15:58 schrieb John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
>>> Well it wouldn’t have been my first choice to ditch the 
>>> mutlistakeholder model for the sake of moving quickly.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> John Bambenek
>>>
>>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 02:53, "benny at nordreg.se 
>>> <mailto:benny at nordreg.se>" <benny at nordreg.se 
>>> <mailto:benny at nordreg.se>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well they need to be able get done with the work, even with those 
>>>> on it looks hard enough to make progress.
>>>> --
>>>> Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen
>>>>
>>>> Benny Samuelsen
>>>> Registry Manager - Domainexpert
>>>>
>>>> Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar
>>>> IANA-ID: 638
>>>> Phone: +46.42197000
>>>> Direct: +47.32260201
>>>> Mobile: +47.40410200
>>>>
>>>>> On 11 Oct 2018, at 00:49, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg 
>>>>> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I did take notice that the new EPDP specifically excludes all 
>>>>> outsiders thus ensuring that anyone who actually uses whois will 
>>>>> not be represented.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> John Bambenek
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 17:28, Dotzero <dotzero at gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:dotzero at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The proposed termination document reflects the reality of what 
>>>>>> has occurred. I'd like to thank everyone else for their efforts. 
>>>>>> I know that we had some disagreements and the process sometimes 
>>>>>> was painful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Hammer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:30 AM Anderson, Marc via 
>>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org 
>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Fellow Next Gen RDS members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     In March of this year the RDS PDP leadership team canceled
>>>>>>     working group meetings, effectively putting the group on
>>>>>>     hold.  This decision was made because we heard from ICANN org
>>>>>>     that it was considering instituting a temporary policy that
>>>>>>     would greatly impact our work.  Out of respect for members’
>>>>>>     time it didn’t make sense to continue deliberations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Since then, the ICANN board did approve a temporary
>>>>>>     specification
>>>>>>     (https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en).
>>>>>>     Subsequent to that, the GNSO council initiated an expedited
>>>>>>     PDP on that temporary specification
>>>>>>     (https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Given all this, the RDS PDP leadership team feels it doesn’t
>>>>>>     make sense for the working group to continue and is
>>>>>>     recommending termination.  The GNSO PDP manual allows for
>>>>>>     termination by the working group and requires a written
>>>>>>     “Termination Summary” delivered to the GNSO council via the
>>>>>>     council liaison.  The manual provides “changing
>>>>>>     circumstances” as an example of a reason for termination
>>>>>>     which this certainly qualifies as.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Attached you will find a proposed “Termination Summary” for
>>>>>>     the RDS PDP working group.  The leadership team plans to
>>>>>>     deliver by 12 October so the GNSO council can have it on
>>>>>>     their agenda for ICANN 63.  Please let the leadership team
>>>>>>     know if you have questions or feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Many thanks for your hard work on this project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Best,
>>>>>>     RDS Leadership team
>>>>>>
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