[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Next Gen RDS - Update from Leadership Team
John Bambenek
jcb at bambenekconsulting.com
Thu Oct 11 15:13:26 UTC 2018
Uh huh.
On 10/11/18 10:04 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
>
> Believe what you want, but we do not want WHOIS to die. We want to
> replace it with something legal, that works.
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
>
>
> Am 11.10.2018 um 17:01 schrieb John Bambenek:
>> Let me finish that for you.
>>
>> ... then we get what we want and whois dies.
>>
>> The temp spec is largely unusable to those who actually use such
>> things. Just killing it would at least be honest.
>>
>> --
>> John Bambenek
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 09:57, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net
>> <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> None of us, but the Temp Spec is on a timer and if it runs out
>>> before there is a solution...
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 11.10.2018 um 15:58 schrieb John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
>>>> Well it wouldn’t have been my first choice to ditch the
>>>> mutlistakeholder model for the sake of moving quickly.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Bambenek
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 02:53, "benny at nordreg.se
>>>> <mailto:benny at nordreg.se>" <benny at nordreg.se
>>>> <mailto:benny at nordreg.se>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well they need to be able get done with the work, even with those
>>>>> on it looks hard enough to make progress.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen
>>>>>
>>>>> Benny Samuelsen
>>>>> Registry Manager - Domainexpert
>>>>>
>>>>> Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar
>>>>> IANA-ID: 638
>>>>> Phone: +46.42197000
>>>>> Direct: +47.32260201
>>>>> Mobile: +47.40410200
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 Oct 2018, at 00:49, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg
>>>>>> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did take notice that the new EPDP specifically excludes all
>>>>>> outsiders thus ensuring that anyone who actually uses whois will
>>>>>> not be represented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> John Bambenek
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 17:28, Dotzero <dotzero at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:dotzero at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The proposed termination document reflects the reality of what
>>>>>>> has occurred. I'd like to thank everyone else for their efforts.
>>>>>>> I know that we had some disagreements and the process sometimes
>>>>>>> was painful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Hammer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:30 AM Anderson, Marc via
>>>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fellow Next Gen RDS members,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In March of this year the RDS PDP leadership team canceled
>>>>>>> working group meetings, effectively putting the group on
>>>>>>> hold. This decision was made because we heard from ICANN
>>>>>>> org that it was considering instituting a temporary policy
>>>>>>> that would greatly impact our work. Out of respect for
>>>>>>> members’ time it didn’t make sense to continue deliberations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since then, the ICANN board did approve a temporary
>>>>>>> specification
>>>>>>> (https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en).
>>>>>>> Subsequent to that, the GNSO council initiated an expedited
>>>>>>> PDP on that temporary specification
>>>>>>> (https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given all this, the RDS PDP leadership team feels it doesn’t
>>>>>>> make sense for the working group to continue and is
>>>>>>> recommending termination. The GNSO PDP manual allows for
>>>>>>> termination by the working group and requires a written
>>>>>>> “Termination Summary” delivered to the GNSO council via the
>>>>>>> council liaison. The manual provides “changing
>>>>>>> circumstances” as an example of a reason for termination
>>>>>>> which this certainly qualifies as.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attached you will find a proposed “Termination Summary” for
>>>>>>> the RDS PDP working group. The leadership team plans to
>>>>>>> deliver by 12 October so the GNSO council can have it on
>>>>>>> their agenda for ICANN 63. Please let the leadership team
>>>>>>> know if you have questions or feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks for your hard work on this project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> RDS Leadership team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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> --
> Volker A. Greimann
> General Counsel and Policy Manager
> KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
>
> T: +49 6894 9396901
> F: +49 6894 9396851
> W: www.key-systems.net
>
> Key-systems is a company registered in Germany with Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken: CEO: Alexander Siffrin
> Registered Offices: Im Oberen Werk 1, DE-66386 St. Ingbert, Germany
>
> Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.
> Registered Offices: 35-39 Moorgate, London, EC2R 6AR.
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