[gtld-tech] Registrar Expiration Date I-D

Pat Moroney pmoroney at name.com
Wed Jan 27 18:47:03 UTC 2016

I just want to remind everyone that this forum is for the proposed
extension to allow registrars to send the Registrar Registration Expiration
Date to the registries. An extension similar to this one will be needed if
the "Proposed Implementation of GNSO Thick Whois Consensus Policy Requiring
Consistent Labeling and Display of RDDS (Whois) Output for All gTLDs"
located here:
https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rdds-output-2015-12-03-en goes
through as is. Public comments are open for the next few days for the
policy and judging by many of the posts in this forum I would assume that
many parties have comments to make even though there do not seem to be any
comments yet. You can send any comments to the following email address:
comments-rdds-output-03dec15 at icann.org

I  hope this clarifies a few things.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:18 AM Thomas Corte <Thomas.Corte at knipp.de> wrote:

> Hello,
> On 27/01/2016 18:49, Greg Aaron wrote:
> > Four problems with #4:
> > A) The current registrar and the current registrant are not the only
> parties
> > with an interest in a domain's expiration date.  For example, other
> people
> > may want that domain when it expires.  Gaining registrars like to see the
> > expiration date when processing inbound transfers.
> Most registries allow (as they should) the inquiry of non-sponsored
> domains via EPP, so registrars should have better ways to obtain that
> information. As for other interested parties (such as domain grabbers),
> I'm not sure how justifiable their interest might be.
> > B) A domain's expiration date can be gotten via EPP <info> command.  No
> > reason to show expiration date in a <info> command but not in WHOIS.
> There are other things not shown in Whois that can be obtained via EPP,
> such as a domain's authinfo, creator registrar, or contact disclosure
> settings. In my point of view it' only a problem if the Whois displays
> *more* information than is available via EPP.
> > C) Some registrants use WHOIS to understand their domains.
> Unfortunately, most use WHOIS to misunderstand them.
> > D) The registry has to store the expiration date no matter what.  So no
> > reason not to display it in WHOIS?
> The discussion is about whether this is potentially confusing information
> that should be suppressed.
> /Thomas
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