[ICANN Academy WG] Reality, Realism, and Responsiveness -- a few of the three Rs that we must consider + Accountability

Wed Aug 29 13:31:44 UTC 2012

Indoctrination is a (possibly archaic) term, which used to be used, 
among other places in the intelligence community (i.e. the Security 
Service (aka MI5), CIA etc).

It may still be, but I don't have direct knowledge of this.

It does NOT mean 'brainwashing' and in normal usage bears no pejorative 
meaning: it merely means 'bringing someone up to speed on a new case'. 
(At least that is the sense in which I read it in the email).I hope that 
removed some of the confusion. :-)

Example:

>> Because the writing is so good and because it is not a literary adaptation, you’ve got to wonder if it wasn’t also a passion of the screenwriter, Eric Roth. It too is about a mole, a word that le Carré indoctrinated into the real intelligence world

On 08/29/2012 02:17 PM, sandra hoferichter wrote:
> Dear Marilyn,
>
> thank you for your thoughts. I will just reply to some of them, because
> many things have been said by others already.
>
> I agree with previous speaker, that modern communication tools can never
> replace F2F meetings. E-learning, if it is well organised (the DIPLO
> model is definitely one), is a valuable instrument to raise awareness,
> get people involved globally on an entry level. To set up an online
> course on an advanced level has the same challenges, I would say even
> more, than a F2F meeting. For example: a global, holistic online-course
> will take about 2 weeks, instead of a compromised 2-3 day course.
>
> On the entry (or contributor) level a lot of e-learning material exists
> already within ICANN. The WG focused on a training programme for the
> leadership level, F2F because it is time effective and the networking
> aspect is of great value. The aim was helping break down the silos. All
> this has been discussed in the past among the At-large WG, but now that
> we are working in an expanded WG we must reconsider and discuss all option.
>
> However in a modular system - I am referring now to pyramid - advanced
> e-learning and F2F, or a combination of both is not contradictory. You
> can add and improve modules as per need and learn from it. Such an
> inclusive model should be the long term aim for this WG.
>
> “Is this introduction, intro-doctrination, …”
>
> Definitely not! The term “indoctrination” was used by some members in
> this list and I have difficulties to understand where this comes from.
> Sending out the curriculum to the WG for comments should prove the
> opposite. We experienced a confusing meeting  in Prague, questioning who
> is responsible and in charge of what. Whilst presenting a draft
> curriculum I was hoping we can focus now on the content and agree on a
> curriculum for Toronto.
>
> As for now, following the discussion on the list and the doodle, I see
> only a minimum chance that we have a pilot in Toronto and I agree here
> with you that the questions: “Why: Who: What: When: AND WHAT NOT to do:
> what to co exist with, etc.” should be further discussed and we should
> build consensus on these questions.
>
> A final decision must be taken after closing the doodle tomorrow 30.Aug.
> 24:00 UTC and then we can check the options for a (additional?) meeting
> in Toronto. The official WG meeting is already scheduled for Wednesday,
> 17 October between 11:00-12:30. This time will be not enough to discus
> all matters, but a conference call or email exchange can help to prepare
> the meeting.
>
> Let’s prove the options once we have a final decision
>
> Best Sandra
>
> *Von:*at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] *Im
> Auftrag von *Marilyn Cade
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 28. August 2012 17:25
> *An:* Alain Berranger; tyokunbo at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* At Large ICANN Academy
> *Betreff:* [ICANN Academy WG] Reality, Realism, and Responsiveness -- a
> few of the three Rs that we must consider + Accountability
>
> I am struggling with what I will say in this email.
>
> first, I want all of us to stop, and think, and then try to agree.
>
> What is the purpose of an ICANN sponsored/funded/supported 'academy'?
>
> Is an 'academy' from ICANN our best strategy?
>
> What are the topics?
>
> Who is the audience?
>
> What is the credibility of an ICANN academy?
>
> Is this introduction, intro-doctrination, or something else?
>
> Given the harsh demands of work on the Constituencies/SGs/ALAC, and
> probably others, is this 'overview' or a more formalized training
> approach that is 'verified' with the entities?
>
> I understand that some are citing examples of sessions held in Europe or
> Latin America with guest speakers, none of whom are certified, or
> accountable to any entity, nor do they represent any official view. that
> has great value.
>
> Let's introduce a different model: ONLINE training.
>
> For instance, the DIPLO training is in fact highly successful in
> reaching large numbers of interested parties. Some become participants.
> Many just are better informed and more aware of ICANN, or IG, or the
> topic that is presented.
>
> I have no relationship to DIPLO,but I do have a concern. The Academy as
> proposed by whomever designed it is based on a model that makes
> assumptions that to me are elitist, and require face to face for a few.
> The BC strongly wants to support training for the many -- including
> information that can be widely distributed by entities like the BC, etc.
>
> Some seem, again, to want to provide indoctrination/orientation to NC
> appointees. It is of concern to the BC that people who know nothing
> about ICANN are being appointed to leadership positions. BUT, any
> information/briefings/orientation must be neutral. Orientation of newly
> appointed reps, whether Board or other, could be a one half day
> orientation session with the chairs of the various
> SOs/AC/Constituencies/SGs on Friday. That is a simple matter; less
> 'stressful' and is more an orientation session than an indoctrination
> opportunity. It also can be accomplished in a 1/2 day to 2/3 day segment.
>
> Decisions are needed on who can participate: all appointees? Chairs and
> designees? staff -- whom? BUT, it simplifies one of the objectives of
> the Academy and allows us to move the Academy concept into a more
> realistic and responsible discussion, which is not trying to solve too
> many problems at once.
>
> summary:
>
> We are struggling with implementing a process that simply lacks full
> support. I have to focus on my responsibilities as BC Chair. I can come
> in a day early, but only if we decide now. I cannot stay after the ICANN
> meeting -- I have to travel to Montreal to a global event on ICTs. I'll
> travel Friday/late afternoon/early evening, so have some time during day
> Friday/post ICANN for a short discussion/debrief.
>
> However, the ICANN Board MUST meet in Toronto, or run the risk of
> conveying to the community that they simply don't care about
> accountability and transparency. So, we should assume an ICANN Board
> meeting on Friday. That still leaves a two hour segment Friday
> afternoon. However, I have work to do with my Constituency/SG, and I
> need to plan accordingly.
>
> Can we not use part of Friday - *pre ICANN *- and discuss key questions:
>
> Why:
>
> Who:
>
> What:
>
> When:
>
> AND WHAT NOT to do: what to co exist with, etc.
>
> Question to ICANN staff:
>
> Can you accept that an academy may not be a physical event, but could
> best be an online and widely available service that is online? That
> doesn't preclude an ocassional face to face, but online training is a
> different matter in terms of development, skills, and capability. And
> reach.
>
> Is someone on staff or Board somehow so focused on having a physical
> 'academy' that using online training mechanisms are not an option? We
> should determine now how flexible staff/board are willing to be on this.
>
> And, I need to assess how much resource, commitment and time that the BC
> can devote to the needs we see for enhancing support for participation
> from business and others.
>
> Marilyn Cade, BC Chair
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:03:14 -0400
> From: alain.berranger at gmail.com
> To: tyokunbo at yahoo.co.uk
> CC: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto -
> decision on the dates
>
> Three quick points:
>
> 1) the majority of those expressing a preference for postponing are all
> experienced and well trained in ICANN matters;
>
> 2) would it make sense to poll the prospective trainees? They have the
> most at stake in learning.
>
> 3) an important benefit of training is the networking between trainees;
> given that this training involves a good chunk of ICANN stakeholders'
> leadership, this networking would produce substantial value.
>
> Alain
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 28, 2012, TYokunbo Abiola wrote:
>
> Having read about the Toronto training program for some time, I strongly
> agree with Bill's ideas.
>
> Regards,
> Adetokunbo Abiola
>
> --- On *Tue, 28/8/12, William Drake /<william.drake at uzh.ch>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto -
> decision on the dates
> To: "sandra hoferichter" <info at hoferichter.eu>
> Cc: "at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org"
> <at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>
> Date: Tuesday, 28 August, 2012, 3:18
>
> Hi
>
> While I strongly support capacity building and outreach/inreach and
> would not want to cause frustration among those who've worked hard on
> this, I think I agree with Avri and Chuck that postponement merits
> serious consideration. There still seems to be different baseline
> visions in play with regard to goals, substance, mechanics and
> governance, and it's not obvious that these can all be effectively
> resolved quickly enough to ensure a good outcome in Toronto. And if a
> "not ready for prime time" version is rushed out and doesn't go
> splendidly, this could have a negative impact on community perceptions
> of the utility of such efforts going forward. I'd rather see it
> unambiguously done right and build the support needed for a regular
> activity than have it be the object of gossip and dissensus (not that
> that could happen in ICANN, but…).
>
> A little more percolation and community direction seems advisable to me.
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2012, at 7:53 AM, sandra hoferichter wrote:
>
>  > Hi Avri, postpone the programme would be that last option only, which
> I put not as an option yet. Taking into consideration the NomCom
> selections and the new CEO participation, I still see some very good
> reasons to go for Toronto. The Autumn meeting was not proposed just by
> chance. Furthermore I believe we can get things done, now that we are in
> the dialogue.
>  >
>  > Best Sandra
>  >
>  > (Note: This message was send from my iPhone - I do apologise for any
> misspelling.)
>  >
>  > Am 28.08.2012 um 01:01 schrieb "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=cgomes%40verisign.com>>:
>  >
>  >> Considering how late it is before the Toronto meetings, this is
> worth considering. At the same time, I personally will contribute
> however possible to do what needs to be done if we keep the Toronto target.
>  >>
>  >> Chuck
>  >>
>  >>> -----Original Message-----
>  >>> From:
> at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> <http://mc/compose?to=at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces%40atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>  >>> [mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-
>  >>> lists.icann.org <http://lists.icann.org>] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
>  >>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:20 PM
>  >>> To: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org
> <http://mc/compose?to=at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg%40icann.org>
>  >>> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto -
>  >>> decision on the dates
>  >>>
>  >>> Hi,
>  >>>
>  >>>> other ideas.
>  >>>
>  >>> Would it be possible/reasonable to add the option of postponing the
>  >>> leadership training from Toronto to a later time when a properly
>  >>> constituted plan can be considered?
>  >>>
>  >>> Thanks
>  >>>
>  >>> avri
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> On 27 Aug 2012, at 17:00, sandra hoferichter wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>> Dear all,
>  >>>>
>  >>>> thank you again for the valuable comments which has been posted on
>  >>> this list. I did not respond to everyone, but they should all feed into
>  >>> the further discussion and the final curriculum.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Coming back to one of Filiz' earlier email I like to draw your
>  >>> attention to the following question and ask you kindly to express your
>  >>> opinion in a doodle.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Due to the time conflicts for some assigned participants, we like to
>  >>> get a clearer picture about the duration of the leadership training in
>  >>> Toronto.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> I propose 3 options and ask all WG members*** to choose, what do you
>  >>>> think is the most appropriate solution. Feel free to consider also
>  >>> the
>  >>>> feedback of your SO / AC / SG chair whilst making the choice
>  >>>> here:http://www.doodle.com/4c4fa7dehuaksckx
>  >>>>
>  >>>> *** For group balancing reasons I ask the recent ALAC programme
>  >>> committee members (Avri, Tijani, Sala, Carlos) only to reply on the
>  >>> doodle.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> The options are:
>  >>>>
>  >>>> 1. A one day orientation programme on Fri, 12th October à this
>  >>> will avoid time conflicts, especially for the GNSO, board and current
>  >>>
>
>
>
> --
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>
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>
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