[ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto - decision on the dates

Fri Aug 31 14:43:21 UTC 2012

Dear Oksana,

Could not agree more!

Alain

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Oksana Prykhodko <sana.pryhod at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am sure that even ICANN veterans just now need the opportunity to
> refresh their visions on ICANN future and on the role and way of
> cooperation betweenf all constituencies. Taking into account future
> "internationalization" of ICANN, it would be great to see more
> representatives of developing countries in the list of ICANN
> Academicians.
>
> Best regards,
> Oksana
>
> 2012/8/30 Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>:
> > Thks Marilyn,
> >
> > You will surely be one of the professors! ;-)
> >
> > I agree by the way that online training should be included in the
> training
> > strategy.... F2F from time to time is very important for leaders'
> networking
> > and should be part of the Academy's training delivery package...but you
> know
> > that better than me!!!
> >
> > Best, Alain
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks, Alain.
> >>
> >>
> >> To me, 'leaders' at ICANN encompasses a wide range of different 'types'.
> >> And that can range from those who are active participants to someone
> who is
> >> appointed, or elected to a specified role. I would not limit capacity
> >> building/skills enhancement/orientation to only a narrow group of
> 'leaders',
> >> as you know from my earlier comments.
> >>
> >> But to respond to your specific question:  For instance, it is up to the
> >> SOs and ACs how they 'select' their leaders, whether they appoint, or
> elect.
> >>
> >> Board members are mixed in selection mechanism - 6 are elected via
> >> processes determined by their selecting organization -- the three SOs --
> >> ASO, ccNSO, GNSO -- two per SO. The Nominating Committee appoints 8
> Board
> >> members in a process established by the ICANN bylaws.
> >>
> >> Hence my reference to elected or appointed.
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:58:46 -0400
> >> From: alain.berranger at gmail.com
> >> To: info at hoferichter.eu
> >> CC: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org
> >> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto -
> >> decision on the dates
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Marilyn, thanks for comprehensive remarks. Just for the record,
> >> community leaders at ICANN are elected not appointed, right?
> >>
> >> Dear Chuck,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your comments. I am in agreement that the target audience
> >> should be clearly defined: how about community leaders that are not
> ICANN
> >> veterans? What ever training audience is strategically selected, a
> training
> >> needs' assessment must be carried out in order to design a relevant
> >> curriculum.
> >>
> >> Alain
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, August 29, 2012, sandra hoferichter wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Chuck, I agree with you perception, it is a diverse group, with a
> >> different level of experience and we do not finally know to which
> degree we
> >> are dealing with more experienced and less experienced participants.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You are right, this makes it difficult to set up an curriculum. In our
> >> draft proposal we tried to consider this issue, (“Some of these
> participants
> >> are also noted as suggested speakers for certain sessions … so they are
> seen
> >> as both, trainee and trainer. While they provide an inside look into the
> >> community as they represent, they also learn more about the focus of
> other
> >> groups.”)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I understand from the comments here, that the result was not sufficient
> >> and also the discussion about the target group should be continued here.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Sandra
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Von: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes at verisign.com]
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. August 2012 18:39
> >> An: sandra hoferichter; at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org
> >> Betreff: RE: [ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto -
> >> decision on the dates
> >>
> >>
> >> Sandra,
> >>
> >> You absolutely may object and that is healthy, but please help me
> >> understand.  I know the ultimate goal is as you state and I fully
> support
> >> that, but look at the list of 32 attendees.  As I previously pointed
> out on
> >> this list: the overwhelming majority of the 32 are ‘experienced and well
> >> trained in ICANN matters’; there may be some of the NCAs that are not;
> and
> >> it could be that there are new SO/AC Board appointees that are not.  If
> >> there are a lot of substitutes for the identified 32, it is possible
> that
> >> they would benefit from the curriculum proposed but we don’t have enough
> >> information in that regard.  Like was well pointed out by others, we
> need to
> >> know our audience and make sure our learning objectives meet their
> needs.
> >>
> >> If I am missing something here, please show me.
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >> From: sandra hoferichter [mailto:info at hoferichter.eu]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:59 AM
> >> To: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org; Gomes, Chuck
> >> Subject: AW: [ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto -
> >> decision on the dates
> >>
> >> Dear Chuck, may I object at this point:
> >>
> >> [Gomes, Chuck]  The large majority of potential trainees are also
> >> ‘experienced and well trained in ICANN matters’.
> >>
> >> The original idea of, what we recently called ICANN Academy, came up
> >> because this is not the case. There are people joining ICANN where it is
> >> required that they take over responsibility pretty soon and they have
> not
> >> entirely understood the organisation, nor they know their counterparts
> in
> >> other SO /AC /SG and their focus.
> >>
> >> It even turns out, that changing constituencies within ICANN offers
> >> surprises for many among us. We received this feedback from NomCom
> >> elections, Board members, ALAC reps and many others. Participating in
> the Ne
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
> >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
> www.schulich.yorku.ca
> >> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
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> >> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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> >>
> >>
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> > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
> > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
> www.schulich.yorku.ca
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Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
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