[Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward

Subrenat, Jean-Jacques jjs at dyalog.net
Tue Aug 12 05:54:45 UTC 2014


Good morning Alissa, Colleagues,

this is to let you know that the ALAC agrees to the pursuit and conclusion of the selection now under way.

Best regards,
Jean-Jacques.




----- Mail original -----
De: "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in>
À: "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>, "Jon Nevett" <jon at donuts.co>
Cc: "ICG" <internal-cg at icann.org>
Envoyé: Lundi 11 Août 2014 22:22:49
Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward



Hi Kavouss, 


I’m not sure that I understand your question, but the process is as I outlined in my mail next week: after 23:59 UTC, we will have the final list of volunteers and Joe will run a selection process for both vice-chair slots and the chair slot. 


Alissa 



On 8/11/14, 12:43 PM, "Kavouss Arasteh" < kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com > wrote: 





Dear Alissa, 
What about the Vice chairs 
' 
Kavouss 



2014-08-11 21:34 GMT+02:00 Jon Nevett < jon at donuts..co > : 


Agreed. It appears that we have consensus with just a few holdouts. Let's move on. Thanks. Jon 




On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Milton L Mueller < mueller at syr.edu > wrote: 

> I would also support the consensus call here. I believe the overwhelming majority of the group supports 1+2, and that the minority objections to it pertained to regional/citizenship diversity. I thought that these concerns had been met by the withdrawal of K. Drazek as a candidate and the understanding that the +2 would be from different regions. 
> 
> --MM 
> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org [mailto: internal-cg- 
>> bounces at icann.org ] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper 
>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:48 PM 
>> To: Subrenat, Jean-Jacques 
>> Cc: ICG 
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward 
>> 
>> Hi Jean-Jacques, 
>> 
>> On 8/11/14, 8:31 AM, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" < jjs at dyalog.net > wrote: 
>> 
>>> Sorry Alissa, 
>>> 
>>> I'm afraid there is neither clarity nor consensus on the way forward on 
>>> this point, and that the deadline will have to be extended. 
>> 
>> As interim chair, I made the consensus call last week, in my email below. 
>> It continues to stand, and I believe I have the support of the bulk of the 
>> group behind me. Consensus involves accommodating objections to the best 
>> extent possible while maintaining broad support within the group. It does 
>> not require unanimity and cannot be held up by a small minority of objectors. 
>> 
>> So we are on track to get the selection going once the deadline expires later 
>> today. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Alissa 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards, 
>>> Jean-Jacques. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Mail original ----- 
>>> De: "Alissa Cooper" < alissa at cooperw.in > 
>>> À: "ICG" < internal-cg at icann.org > 
>>> Envoyé: Lundi 11 Août 2014 17:24:34 
>>> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward 
>>> 
>>> Reminder: People who wish to volunteer for a chair role need to do so 
>>> by 
>>> 23:59 UTC today, Aug 11. I believe the current list of volunteers is as 
>>> follows: 
>>> 
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 
>>> Patrik Fälström 
>>> Mohamed El Bashir 
>>> Alissa Cooper 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Alissa 
>>> 
>>> On 8/7/14, 10:57 AM, "Alissa Cooper" < alissa at cooperw.in > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi all, 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks to everyone for engaging on the topic of chair structure. 
>>>> Taking in all of the in-person and email discussion thus far, I think 
>>>> we have a viable path forward. My observations are: 
>>>> 
>>>> 1. In response to the compromise I suggested on July 31 [i], the group 
>>>> demonstrated broad support for a 1+2 structure, with an objection from 
>>>> Jean-Jacques and ALAC. This included support from people who had 
>>>> previously stated preferences for other structures, and even support 
>>>> from people who had previously said they could not live with 1+2. This 
>>>> is what some people might call “consensus” and what I would normally 
>>>> describe as “rough consensus” in support of 1+2. 
>>>> 
>>>> 2. We have very strong support for a “1+something” chair structure, 
>>>> following the recent mail from Jean-Jacques [ii]. I don’t think we 
>>>> have anyone objecting to 1+something at this point. 
>>>> 
>>>> 3. We have had lengthy discussions on the list about geographic 
>>>> diversity. We have very strong support in the group for having 
>>>> geographically diverse participation throughout the stewardship 
>>>> transition plan development process. We have differences of opinion 
>>>> within the group about the extent to which that diversity must be 
>>>> required to extend to the chairs of the ICG. 
>>>> 
>>>> 4. We have a demonstrated need to agree within the ICG about the 
>>>> methods, both electronic and in-person, that we will use to arrive at 
>>>> and judge consensus within this group going forward. 
>>>> 
>>>> Taking the above into consideration, let's proceed as follows: 
>>>> 
>>>> Go forward with a 1+2 structure — 1 chair and 2 vice-chairs. I believe 
>>>> the current list of people who have volunteered to serve in these 
>>>> roles 
>>>> is: 
>>>> 
>>>> Russ Housley 
>>>> Patrik Fälström 
>>>> Mohamed El Bashir 
>>>> Keith Drazek 
>>>> Alissa Cooper 
>>>> 
>>>> (I do not think we need re-confirmations from the above people because 
>>>> they have mostly re-confirmed already on the list at some point over 
>>>> the last several weeks, but if any of the above listed people wants to 
>>>> withdraw, please say so.) 
>>>> 
>>>> Taking the suggestion from Jean-Jacques, I think we should give people 
>>>> a few more days to volunteer. So if you would like to volunteer, 
>>>> please make that known on the list by August 11, 23:59 UTC.. 
>>>> 
>>>> On August 12, Joe, who previously agreed to detail the chair roles and 
>>>> run the selection process [iii], and Wolf-Ulrich, who has agreed to 
>>>> help Joe while Joe is traveling, will launch the selection process. In 
>>>> making their selections, ICG participants should take the geographic 
>>>> diversity discussions we’ve had into account. 
>>>> 
>>>> Joe and Wolf-Ulrich will also begin drafting a proposal that describes 
>>>> the methods the group will use for arriving at and judging consensus 
>>>> going forward, and will make that proposal available to the group for 
>>>> discussion when it is ready. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> Alissa 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [i] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000582.html 
>>>> 
>>>> [ii] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-August/000769.html 
>>>> 
>>>> [iii] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000381.html 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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