[NCAP-Discuss] Draft final Study 1 report: "re-registered name collisions"

[Danny McPherson]

On 2020-04-30 18:51, Rubens Kuhl wrote:

> 
> But it's kinda curious that all opinions I saw defending views such as
> yours work for the same company which happens to be a large incumbent
> registry.

Rubens,
My argument stands on technical merit, not my employer.

That said, you agreed "they're more like a [leak] than a collision" 
about two emails ago and you certainly don't work for Verisign :-)  Even 
then you also conflated Active Directory traffic arriving unexpectedly 
somewhere it wasn't supposed to go (which likely is escaping its 
intended [non-RZM] namespace and most certainly not an artifact of 
"re-registrations" themselves).  The you added that "everybody started 
using that terminology so it's fruitless to question it at this point in 
time. We all know what it means." to which I'd reply apparently not -- - 
accuracy, precision, and nuances like these should matter to this WP and 
it's work products.

--
In an attempt to be productive here I'll refrain from back and forth 
with you on this anymore and offer the following to the WP: I'm not sure 
at this stage what we'd reasonably expect Karen or ICANN Org to do here, 
perhaps other than a footnote in the report describing the issue with 
what NCAP handed OCTO.  As I believe Matt Larson alluded to it's 
certainly not material to the report as written (other than confusing 
language around scope and suggesting re-registrations are "collisions", 
which I clearly take issue with).  And while there are certainly well 
known issues with re-registrations that doesn't make them collisions.

I do hope technical folks in the WP provide Karen and the WP feedback on 
her report - and perhaps help tease out the issues in the definition, 
scope and conflict here as well (or we can opt to do that in our 
comments on the report as I'm pretty sure she's seen my opinion on some 
sections).

I know there are some very smart people on this list who have said 
little to nothing, I hope to hear from them (even if they disagree with 
me).


-danny