[registrars] .info and .org increase our float to them even more

Bhavin Turakhia bhavin.t at directi.com
Tue Oct 14 18:23:03 UTC 2003


This is news to me. I wonder why this was never mentioned to us anywhere
(unless someone can point me to any fine print I missed). I am hoping
Afilias and PIR will take steps to reverse this effect immediately

bhavin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org 
> [mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stahura
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:43 PM
> To: Registrars Constituency
> Subject: [registrars] .info and .org increase our float to 
> them even more
> 
> 
> Fellow registrars,
> 
> I found out that Afilias keeps our money for 30 days even 
> after we delete names. This is unlike Verisign who refunds 
> the auto-renew registration fee immediately upon delete. With 
> Afilias we have no opportunity whatsoever to not pay the 
> extra 30 days because even if we delete the name immediately 
> upon expiration, they still keep the money for 30 days. And 
> we can't, of course delete names before they expire because our 
> registrant's have paid for a year, not something less.
> It is of particular interest now since it has been 2 years 
> since .info went live and those initial names are coming up 
> for renewal this month.  
> 
> And this was not the case with .org before Afilias took it 
> over. So registrars, if you see your Afilias balance 
> decreasing faster than you thought, this is the reason. Many 
> registrars would like for Verisign and all registrars to not 
> keep our money during the 
> 45-day grace period, and to charge us only if and when the 
> name is explicitly renewed, so many registrars are attempting 
> to get Verisign and the rest to switch to auto-delete. But 
> Afilias, what you are doing is making the situation even 
> worse. It's a step backwards. Now, if registrars wait till 
> the end of the auto-renew grace period to delete, 
> Afilias keeps our money for a total of 80 days.
> 
> PIR, did you authorize this policy and pricing change for 
> .org? Because it was not this way before Afilias got ahold of 
> it. PIR, I thought you were non-profit.  Different. Not, 
> "hey, lets slap an even bigger cash-flow issue on the registrars, 
> while we make a few dollars from the float.  Whooaaa hahaha 
> (evil laugh)" Verisign isn't even doing it for chrissake.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 





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