[Rt4-whois] WHOIS Policy RT - Law Enforcement comments.

Wed Nov 30 14:46:46 UTC 2011

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Emily,

Happy with this definition:

Any entity charged or otherwise mandated by governments with enforcing or ensuring observance of or obedience to the law; an organised body of people officially maintained or employed to keep order, prevent or detect crime and enforce the law

Moving intro to DNS to Appendices good ideas. Alice had the latest version, with Lutz's included.

Sharon

Sharon LEMON OBE
Deputy Director
Cyber and Forensics
Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA)
07768 290902
0207 855 2800

-----Original Message-----
From: Emily Taylor [mailto:emily at emilytaylor.eu]
Sent: 30 November 2011 14:30
To: LEMON, Sharon
Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] WHOIS Policy RT - Law Enforcement comments.

Hi Sharon

Thanks for working through this.

Sorry to say it, but I will - I don't think your new version of the law enf. definition will work.  It includes the world and his wife.  Can I have your snap response to the following proposal:

Any entity charged or otherwise mandated by governments with enforcing or ensuring observance of or obedience to the law; an organised body of people officially maintained or employed to keep order, prevent or detect crime and enforce the law.

Unfortunately, your colleague from Canada was working to quite an old draft, which has been superseded several times over.  I can see the comments, and note what is said about impact.  We have been discussing moving chunks into appendices.  Would the intro to the domain name system be a good candidate?

Can you give me finalised text for that section, please, which incorporates the latest comments made by Lutz and others - this version seems to be based on an older draft.

The comments from Gary and others later in the text, and gap analysis are good.  I'd like to see how we can incorporate some of them. At the moment my priorities are to get the bits lining up in the right places, and have the executive summary, findings and recommendations agreed.

Kind regards

Emily

On 30 November 2011 13:48, LEMON, Sharon <sharon.lemon at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk<mailto:sharon.lemon at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>> wrote:

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Dear Emily, Alice and All,

Sorry for arriving at the party late, I have been watching in awe the hundreds of emails flying about.  We gave until today for our international colleagues to comment and we have just had our own internal meeting to finalise the comments on the paper.

The paper complemented our ongoing law enforcement work within the ICANN community and there are not comments of major significance -ours are in green.  I know that Alice is currently going through the nightmare of trying to organise the version control. (Good Luck and thanks Alice).
I have replaced the definition of law enforcement with:

Any entity with a responsibility to enforce or ensure observance to or obedience of the law, whether mandated by government or otherwise.

We could go on forever with this - but let me know if there are any show stopping objections.

I hope we make the deadline of 5pm ;-)

Sharon

Sharon LEMON OBE
Deputy Director
Cyber and Forensics
Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA)
07768 290902
0207 855 2800

-----Original Message-----
From: KIBBEY, Gary
Sent: 30 November 2011 13:16
To: LEMON, Sharon
Subject: FW: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report - 24 Nov - Clean CC GK Comments

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Gary Kibbey/ Senior Manager
Cyber
Serious Organised Crime Agency / Tel +44(0)207 855 2863 +44(0)7876790990<tel:%2B44%280%297876790990>
gary.kibbey at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk<mailto:gary.kibbey at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>

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From: FLAHERTY, Jonathan
Sent: 29 November 2011 17:54
To: KIBBEY, Gary; ADDIS, Benedict
Cc: CURLEY, Cliona
Subject: RE: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report - 24 Nov - Clean CC GK Comments

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My comments added.

Jon Flaherty | HVOM | SOCA Cyber & Forensics | 0207 855 2808 | 07919 218439 | jonathan.flaherty at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk<mailto:jonathan.flaherty at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>

-----Original Message-----
From: KIBBEY, Gary
Sent: 29 November 2011 14:34
To: FLAHERTY, Jonathan; ADDIS, Benedict
Cc: CURLEY, Cliona
Subject: FW: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report - 24 Nov - Clean CC GK Comments

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Gents

If you have any comments -can you drop onto this working copy. Don't track changes - just comments.

Ta

Gary

Gary Kibbey/ Senior Manager
Cyber
Serious Organised Crime Agency / Tel +44(0)207 855 2863 +44(0)7876790990<tel:%2B44%280%297876790990>
gary.kibbey at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk<mailto:gary.kibbey at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>

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From: KIBBEY, Gary
Sent: 29 November 2011 14:31
To: KIBBEY, Gary
Subject: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report - 24 Nov - Clean CC GK Comments

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