[tz] Elliot - I want to talk about the TZ project ASAP...

Todd Glassey tglassey at certichron.com
Wed Oct 19 15:39:27 UTC 2011

On Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:51:45 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
> Please see http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database-04.
> Eliot


Thanks -   great start Elliot - let me make some devils advocate 

0)    We need two mailing lists - a general convo list and a second 
list for formal announcements as to changes in the DB itself. The 
reasons are that most of the relying parties who will subscribe to list 
#2 *(the DB Changes List) dont want anything else to do with this 
process., They are relying parties who need to be noticed when there 
are formal changes in the list only.

A)     we should tie the TZ use statement in the opening to to Log 
Correlation and tools like UNIX XDAS or the MITRE CEE groups work.  It 
also needs to be noticed in the I-D that TZ's are a function of 
International Metrological Law and Treaty and are managed by the legal 
holders of those rights for the jurisdictions represented.

B)      The TZ information needs to be tied to some Authority Context 
so that each TZ is tied to a National or Judicial Context in some form. 
That means each TZ is functionally tied to a Originating Authority - in 
the US for instance this would be 15 USC 260 which then further 
stratifies the time data to a set of Metrological Authorities within 
that Legal Instance of Time. That means a TZ Management Actor for each 
TZ published must be established.

I suggest adding a STAKEHOLDER ROLE to the Submission Practice and that 
the Stakeholder may amend the content of the publication-list with 
respect to the TZ(s) they hold control over here,  and that a simple 
notice from the Stakeholder to the DB Coordinator should trigger both 
an update to the list and a public-service notice to a new TZ Announce 
List which is specific to TZ Changes and availability Statements from 
the DB Coordinator/DBA

C)     The Data Base is actually a legal publication and the IETF has 
nothing to say about its presentation of that content. Further the IETF 
failing to properly make changes creates both civil and potentially 
criminal liabilities in a number of situations that OLSON was immune 
from under the 11th Amendment Protections accorded to the NIH.

To sidestep that liability there are a number of things we can do with 
the Stakeholder Role suggested in B too - we should talk more about 
this and who actually owns this data.Likewise, since this is a legal 
document that is being published with is a distillation of a number of 
metrological and trade treaties the IETF or ANY part of the IANA stand 
in the way of a legal jurisdiction making immediate changes to that 
list, its international law. Sop the Draft needs work there.


Todd S. Glassey - CISM CIFI
CTO Certichron Inc

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