[tz] Java & Rearguard

Mark Davis ☕️ mark at macchiato.com
Mon Jun 3 09:55:33 UTC 2019

I agree. And note that in many languages, two offsets are not "standard"
and "whatever", they are is "summer" and "winter".

("Standard" is a misnomer anyway, when more than half the time it isn't
that offset.)


On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:37 AM Robert Elz <kre at munnari.oz.au> wrote:

>     Date:        Fri, 31 May 2019 17:19:22 -0700
>     From:        Guy Harris <guy at alum.mit.edu>
>     Message-ID:  <C6840C54-C178-497A-A254-CB736D983542 at alum.mit.edu>
>   | On May 31, 2019, at 3:49 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert at cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
>   |
>   | > On the contrary, IEEE Std 1003.1-1998 requires support for so-called
> "negative DST",
>   |
>   | Can we promote the term "Daylight Shifting Time"?
> It would be more consistent with other such acronyms, and easier
> to read, if it were "Shifted Daylight Time" (cf: ISO, UTC, ...)
> But even better, just call it "the time" and be done with it.   Having
> two names (standard and **whatever**) implies that only two are possible
> (and leads to the dumb assumptions that people tend to make).
> When we need to refer to a specific time in a specific place, on a
> specific date, we need all of that information to do it properly.
> Allowing anyone to believe otherwise, ever, is to do them a great
> disservice, even if in particular cases some of it ends up being
> implied by other parts.
> kre
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