[UA-discuss] Tim Cook's comments today regarding Google Pay

Ram Mohan rmohan at afilias.info
Thu Nov 12 21:09:44 UTC 2015

This is close to spamming the list.

*From:* Ron Baione [mailto:ron.baione at yahoo.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:39 PM
*To:* Ram Mohan <rmohan at afilias.info>
*Cc:* ua-discuss at icann.org
*Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] Tim Cook's comments today regarding Google Pay

NASA has stated many times that a solar storm could temporarily knock out
out the power grid, and without physical money at that hypothetical
juncture, people will have to barter. Other possibilities exist now and in
the future which make it realistic to expect the safe guard of physical
money to stick around at least a few more generations incase of a failed
grid event, unless Tim Cook knows thhe future and he knows there will never
be a Solar Storm ever again, it just boggles the mind how someone so
connected to thoughtful people, especially in the cyber-security industry,
could completely discount and disregard Solar activity, where taking money
out of circulation would cause a 100% reliance on technology for payments.
It would take a while, too long, to reprint and recirculate physical money
if that became necessary.

In regards to this topic being relevant to Universal Acceptance's charter,
it is because Tim Cook is an influential person in the tech industry and
added confusion about the future of the internet, stating there will be a
mandatory degree of restricted learning and restricted knowledge conveyance
to the next generation via a process only he seems to know about. The
language and code additions UA is making in regards to language and other
internet necessities should not be deterred, affected by or confused in
that described dystopian future by such an unclarified, alternate vision of
the future internet.

How can any ICANN working group perform its function to the best of ts
abilities, building a better and inclusive internet, when arguably the top
Tech CEO in the world alludes to being privy to a future reality ICANN
isn't privy to? And if Apple asserts that the next generation will not know
what money is, and ICANN and Apple are in the same exact industry, then
ICANN has a responsibility in my opinion to at least ask someone at Apple
how such an implausible reality will be made possible.

Non-germane topics would more likely include gardening, sports and/or
fashion advice. One possibility I thought of as to why such a vague
statement was put out there by Tim, is that since everything about the tech
industry's daily grind must be exact and precise, once it is time to speak
people subconciously go to the opposite mindset extreme, talking vaguely in
an effort to even out their robotic and exhaustive efforts with what feels
like an excercise in philosophy. As a solution to the recurrence of such
subconsious rebalancing of the precision-based mindset with philosophical
vague assertions, language graduates should be hired by the tech industry
to advise industry leaders on how to limit overall global confusion via
their spoken words, symbols and slogans, to speed up progress.



*From: *Ram Mohan <rmohan at afilias.info>;
*To: *Ron Baione <ron.baione at yahoo.com>;
*Cc: *<ua-discuss at icann.org>;
*Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] Tim Cook's comments today regarding Google Pay
*Sent: *Thu, Nov 12, 2015 1:50:46 PM

This is not germane to the universal acceptance topic or charter.


On Nov 11, 2015 9:51 PM, "Ron Baione via UA-discuss" <ua-discuss at icann.org
<javascript:return>> wrote:

This email is to request comment from Brent and any Apple representatives
regarding Google Pay being recently invoked by Apple CEO Timothy Cook as
one of two major "buying and selling" systems within an inevitable cashless
society, the other being Apple's pay system:

Timothy stated, "The next generation will not know what money is.". All
members of UA and ICANN should be brought up to speed on Timothy's
assertion that learning restrictions will be being applied to ICANN and the
internet, so that the rest of us can know exactly how such a feat of
history deletion and restrictions on the learning and conveyance of
historical knowledge would be logically accomplished in such a short period
of time. For example:

1) Would older generations not be allowed to describe physical money to
younger generations?

2) What date will those conveyance and learning restrictions begin?

3) Will UA and ICANN be forced to participate in the deletion of all
photographs, records and mentions of physical money from the internet?

4) Will libraries be forced to discard books that mention or depict
physical money?

5) Will ccwg-accountability have to add language to their proposal for the
NTIA to resteict future ICANN members from using their connections to Apple
and Google against other ICANN members they disagree with on a certain
issues as a future intimidation tactic?

6) Is Timothy Cook asserting personal, intellectual control over the next
generation of people by claiming to know, without any doubt, what they will
and will not know or be able to learn about at an unspecified time of his

It is one thing to claim that the next generation will not use physical
money, but to make such an assertion on what human beings will be aware of
and learn about in terms of what they can and cannot learn, as Timothy
made, seems to be a stretch of the imagination. Unless of course, Brent and
any Apple representatives can fill the rest of us in, respectfully, on the
vague process alluded to by Timothy Cook today. If the CEO of a major
corporation can assert what humans can possibly learn about in the future,
should not such an assertion be at least considered by ICANN's and UA's
mission of a free and open internet for all?



*From: *Rubens Kuhl <rubens at registro.br <javascript:return>>;
*To: *Don Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org <javascript:return>>;
*Cc: *ua-discuss at icann.org <javascript:return> <ua-discuss at icann.org
*Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] Hackathon @ ICANN55
*Sent: *Thu, Nov 12, 2015 12:18:09 AM

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org>
> Here’s my take on the Hackathon idea @ ICANN55:
> 1) ICANN is a technology conference and there would be few technology
conferences of its size held in the region.
> 2) I note that ICANN is generally around policies, but there are still a
lot of geeks there

ccTLD activities at ICANN are usually of a more technical tone, and ccTLDs
are the most used domains in the AF region, not gTLDs. Involving the local
IDN ccTLDs might be key to attract more geeks.

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