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Jijani
The concept of observer is clear
The Person who participate at the meeting without the right to express any
views without o the consent of the chair .
He or she can not intervene more than once unless the lisse i  directly
touches his or her interest It shall  noz eligible to vote

2016-08-13 20:06 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>:

> As I am observer, this most likely would not reach the mailing list(which
> is right), what may not be accurate(which i also noted to Greg) is that
> observers are not restricted from joining the calls. They can indeed
> participate in the call if they so wish. So Tijani's understanding is
> somewhat how I understood this as well.
>
> Perhaps in the interest of saving funds, observers who wants to join the
> call may only use the AC and not receive special dialout.
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On 13 Aug 2016 18:51, "Tijani BEN JEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
> wrote:
>
>> Kavouss,
>>
>> There is no mention of « Observers » in the CCWG Charter.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------------
>> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
>> Executive Director
>> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
>> Phone: +216 98 330 114
>>             +216 52 385 114
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------------
>>
>> Le 13 août 2016 à 18:20, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Tijani
>> Peut être la définition se trouve dans notre Charter
>>  Salutations
>> Kavouss
>>
>> 2016-08-13 19:07 GMT+02:00 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>:
>>
>>> Bonsoir Alain,
>>>
>>> Je ne trouve pas de définition des observateurs pour les sous-groupes du
>>> WS 2. Maintenant, et d’une manière informelle, ils donnent aux observateurs
>>> le statut de « voyeurs » passifs.
>>> Au plaisir de te revoir à Hyderabad
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> -----------------
>>> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
>>> Directeur Exécutif
>>> Fédération Méditerranéenne des associations d'Internet (*FMAI*)
>>> Phone: +216 98 330 114
>>>              +216 52 385 114
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 13 août 2016 à 00:18, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thanks, Vinay!  You are correct.
>>>
>>> The page where the roles are discussed is here: https://docs.google.com/
>>> document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCseqU/edit  The
>>> document states that observers will not actively participate and will not
>>> have posting rights to the list.  I believe the role of observers was also
>>> described on at least one of the CCWG calls, as well.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Vinay Kesari <vinay.kesari at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Parminder,
>>>>
>>>> 1. People can check their status here: https://community.icann.
>>>> org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction
>>>>
>>>> 2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active
>>>> participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in
>>>> touch with staff at <acct-staff at icann.org> and simply request a
>>>> change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you
>>>> haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far
>>>> as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to
>>>> be corrected on all of this by anyone though.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Vinay
>>>>
>>>> PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely
>>>> (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :)
>>>>
>>>> On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and
>>>>> I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Greg. Two things;
>>>>> 1. How to know one's status?
>>>>> 2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.
>>>>>
>>>>> best, parminder
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls.  If
>>>>> you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status
>>>>> to "Member."
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers
>>>>> when considering the results, since their time constraints should not
>>>>> affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur
>>>>> was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure
>>>>> why "Observers" voted at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if I'm missing something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59
>>>>>> UTC.  PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO.  THANK YOU.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on
>>>>>>> Jurisdiction,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on
>>>>>>> behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari.  Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this
>>>>>>> subgroup.  We look forward to working with all of you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or
>>>>>>> times to have Subgroup calls.  The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500,
>>>>>>> 1300 and 1900 UTC.  There are slots available on all days of the week (but
>>>>>>> not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been
>>>>>>> taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week.  In order to
>>>>>>> determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. *Best time(s) of day for you*.  IMPORTANT NOTES:  This is a *day
>>>>>>> and time *poll only, for the ongoing work of this group*.  Please
>>>>>>> ignore the specific dates next week.*  (For your convenience,
>>>>>>>  times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2.  *Rotation vs. fixed time*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LINK TO DOODLE POLL: http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please respond by *23:59 UTC* on *Thursday, August 11*, so that we
>>>>>>> can get our process underway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Shatan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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