[Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup!

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Aug 18 06:50:34 UTC 2016



On Wednesday 17 August 2016 11:40 PM, tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn wrote:
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> For the purpose of sharing the inconvenience of difficult time for the
> call, I also accept time rotation.
>

It will be good to see what are to be called 'off hours' or 'difficult
time' . If it is midnight to say 6 or 7 AM, I am not sure any
participant falls in that period for the 1300 hrs UTC slot.... But I am
just guessing... parminder

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> Le 17 août 2016 à 18:35, McAuley, David <dmcauley at verisign.com
> <mailto:dmcauley at verisign.com>> a écrit :
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> Thanks Greg and others for moving this forward.
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> I personally think that the time should be rotated to allow for a fair
> distribution of the inconvenience of participating in off-hours.
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> David
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> David McAuley
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> International Policy Manager
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> Verisign Inc.
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> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of* Greg Shatan
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:30 PM
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> *To:* Mike Silber
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> *Cc:* ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction
> Subgroup!
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> All,
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> Thanks for your comments to date.  We've heard from about a half-dozen
> members so far, and it would be helpful to hear from more before
> fixing a long-term slot or rotation.
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> In my view we need to accommodate our members as best we can, so we
> can do our work; those are the demographics we need to deal with.  I
> will note that "Iran and west" includes not only NA and EU, but also
> AF (as pointed out by Mike Silber) and SA, as well as the Middle East,
> Western Asia and portions of Central Asia.  I will also note that
> among the 4 respondents from "east of Iran" the votes for the 13:00
> time slot, there were 2 yes votes, 1 if need be and 1 no.
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> All that said, this is a decision to be made by the group, and as
> such, the more members' voices heard the better.  I'm not sure running
> another doodle poll would help, but I'd rather let the discussion go
> forward first.  One shortcoming of polls is that they do not allow for
> dialogue.  As such, if there is another poll, let's have it after
> further dialogue, so that the participants can keep in mind various
> viewpoints as they respond.
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> In the interests of transparency, here are the quantitative results
> from the Doodle poll.  I excluded all results involving the 05:00 time
> slot, since there was little support for this slot in any configuration.
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> Greg
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> *FIXED TIME VS. ROTATION SURVEY*
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> *MEMBERS ONLY*
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> *Yes*
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> *If Need be*
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> *No*
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> 19:00 Fixed Time
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> 18
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> 1
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> 4
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> 13:00 Fixed Time
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> 10
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> 3
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> 10
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> 13/19 Rotation
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> 11
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> 7
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> 5
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> *ALL PARTICIPANTS*
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> 19:00 Fixed Time
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> 2
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> 7
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> 13:00 Fixed Time
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> 13
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> 5
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> 12
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> 13/19 Rotation
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> 9
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> 8
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> *TIME OF DAY SURVEY* (Yes : If Need Be : No)
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> *MEMBERS ONLY*
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> *Monday*
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> 19:00
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> 20:0:9
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> 14:0:14
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> 13:00
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> 17:4:11
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> 13:00
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> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com
> <mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> On 17 Aug 2016, at 14:26, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu
> <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
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> Greg:
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> I think it makes sense to alternate the meeting time, especially if
> there was something near to a bimodal distribution of preferences.
> While it may be true that a (NA-EU) majority finds the 19:00 UTC time
> most convenient, by alternating we can incorporate the preferences of
> a larger segment of the group.
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> Just as aside - AF finds 19:00 convenient too, but it seems the
> thoughts of Africa are not that relevant
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