[Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup!

Thu Aug 18 18:10:18 UTC 2016

Parminder,

13:00 UTC is 6:00 am in the Pacific Time Zone, which includes the Western
US (e.g., Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Phoenix, etc.) and
Canada (e.g., Vancouver).  On the other end, 13:00 UTC is 1 am in New
Zealand.

If we bring in 7:00 am, that takes in the Mountain Time Zone, which also
includes a big swath of the US and Canada (e.g., Denver, Salt Lake City,
Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, etc.) as well as a portion of Central America
(Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.). If we include 11 pm, that brings
in eastern Australia (e.g., Melbourne, Sydney, etc.)

Greg

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:50 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
wrote:

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> On Wednesday 17 August 2016 11:40 PM, tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn wrote:
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> For the purpose of sharing the inconvenience of difficult time for the
> call, I also accept time rotation.
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> It will be good to see what are to be called 'off hours' or 'difficult
> time' . If it is midnight to say 6 or 7 AM, I am not sure any participant
> falls in that period for the 1300 hrs UTC slot.... But I am just
> guessing... parminder
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> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
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> Executive Director
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> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
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> Phone: +216 98 330 114
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> Le 17 août 2016 à 18:35, McAuley, David <dmcauley at verisign.com> a écrit :
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> Thanks Greg and others for moving this forward.
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> I personally think that the time should be rotated to allow for a fair
> distribution of the inconvenience of participating in off-hours.
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> David
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> David McAuley
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> International Policy Manager
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> Verisign Inc.
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> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-
> bounces at icann.org <ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of*
> Greg Shatan
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:30 PM
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> *To:* Mike Silber
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> *Cc:* ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction
> Subgroup!
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> All,
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> Thanks for your comments to date.  We've heard from about a half-dozen
> members so far, and it would be helpful to hear from more before fixing a
> long-term slot or rotation.
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> In my view we need to accommodate our members as best we can, so we can do
> our work; those are the demographics we need to deal with.  I will note
> that "Iran and west" includes not only NA and EU, but also AF (as pointed
> out by Mike Silber) and SA, as well as the Middle East, Western Asia and
> portions of Central Asia.  I will also note that among the 4 respondents
> from "east of Iran" the votes for the 13:00 time slot, there were 2 yes
> votes, 1 if need be and 1 no.
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> All that said, this is a decision to be made by the group, and as such,
> the more members' voices heard the better.  I'm not sure running another
> doodle poll would help, but I'd rather let the discussion go forward
> first.  One shortcoming of polls is that they do not allow for dialogue.
> As such, if there is another poll, let's have it after further dialogue, so
> that the participants can keep in mind various viewpoints as they respond.
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> In the interests of transparency, here are the quantitative results from
> the Doodle poll.  I excluded all results involving the 05:00 time slot,
> since there was little support for this slot in any configuration.
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> Greg
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> *FIXED TIME VS. ROTATION SURVEY*
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> *MEMBERS ONLY*
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> *Yes*
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> *If Need be*
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> *No*
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> 19:00 Fixed Time
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> 18
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> 1
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> 4
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> 13:00 Fixed Time
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> 10
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> 3
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> 10
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> 13/19 Rotation
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> 11
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> 7
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> 5
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> *ALL PARTICIPANTS*
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> 19:00 Fixed Time
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> 21
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> 2
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> 7
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> 13:00 Fixed Time
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> 13
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> 5
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> 12
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> 13/19 Rotation
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> 13
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> 9
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> 8
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> *TIME OF DAY SURVEY* (Yes : If Need Be : No)
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> *MEMBERS ONLY*
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> *Monday*
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> *Tuesday*
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> *Wednesday*
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> *Thursday*
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> *Friday*
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> 19:00
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> 20:0:9
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> 16:1:11
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> 17:1:10
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> 17:0:11
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> 14:0:14
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> 13:00
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> 10:2:17
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> 17:4:11
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> 14:3:11
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> 14:2:12
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> 15:2:11
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> *ALL PARTICIPANTS*
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> 19:00
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> 24:2:10
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> 19:3:14
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> 21:2:14
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> 20:0:16
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> 18:1:17
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> 13:00
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> 15:2:19
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> 17:5:14
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> 19:3:14
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> 17:2:17
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> 20:2:14
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> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> On 17 Aug 2016, at 14:26, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
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> Greg:
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> I think it makes sense to alternate the meeting time, especially if there
> was something near to a bimodal distribution of preferences. While it may
> be true that a (NA-EU) majority finds the 19:00 UTC time most convenient,
> by alternating we can incorporate the preferences of a larger segment of
> the group.
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> Just as aside - AF finds 19:00 convenient too, but it seems the thoughts
> of Africa are not that relevant
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