[gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] NAF use of WHOIS

[Lars Hoffmann]

Dear WG members,
Following Petter¹s question, I reached out to Kristine Dorrain from the
National Arbitration Forum. She confirmed that the NAF does indeed use the
WHOIS data, but they only copy-paste the information as displayed in the
WHOIS. So to them it is irrelevant whether the information is accurate
and/or in Latin or any other script. You will find our conversation in full
below. 
I hope this helps -
Best wishes,
Lars




From:  <Dorrain>, Kristine
Date:  Thursday 22 May 2014 16:35
To:  Lars HOFFMANN <lars.hoffmann at icann.org>
Cc:  Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
Subject:  RE: Not IRTP related ...

Yes, that¹s correct.
 
We copy and paste the text in the Whois fieldsŠregardless of script.
 
Note that the primary service of the complaint now is email, so the only
thing sent via mail or fax is a notice.
 

From: Lars Hoffmann [mailto:lars.hoffmann at icann.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:15 AM
To: Dorrain, Kristine
Cc: Julie Hedlund
Subject: Re: Not IRTP related ...
 

HI Kristine ­ thank you for the quick response ­ so, assuming there was a
non-Latin script WHOIS, you would serve that address (say in chinese). And
if there was also a translation or transliteration of the address you would
serve that too but without verifying to what extent (if at all) the
translation is correct?

I think that is all the Group requires at this time. Thank you again so much
for your help with this!

Best wishes,

Lars

 

 

From: <Dorrain>, Kristine
Date: Thursday 22 May 2014 15:45
To: Lars HOFFMANN <lars.hoffmann at icann.org>
Cc: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
Subject: RE: Not IRTP related ...

 

Hi Lars:
 
Yes, all of the Policies require us to serve the information listed in the
Whois.  That information is considered to be ³the registrant/the
respondent.²  We do not verify accuracy at all.  If a Whois record says
Mickey Mouse, address 1234 Main Street, that¹s the respondent according to
the UDRP/URS etc.  If a registrar or registry were to notify us when we
request the domain name lock that there is another contact information for
Respondent (billing information under UDRP, a removal of a privacy service,
etc) we will serve that information as well.  The URS does not require
thatŠit only requires that we serve the information in the Whois, but we
take the extra step to prevent problems with service due to Whois
inaccuracies a Registrar was trying to fix.
 
I¹m happy to do a deeper dive if needed, or make a guest appearance on your
next call.
 
Best,
 
Kristine
 
 
 

From: Lars Hoffmann [mailto:lars.hoffmann at icann.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:34 AM
To: Dorrain, Kristine
Cc: Julie Hedlund
Subject: Not IRTP related ...
 

Hi Kristine,

I hope all is well!  I am supporting the PDP WG on Translation and
Transliteration of Contact Information. And the WG members are wondering
whether and if so, how, NAF is using WHOIS to contact registrants that are
party to disputes (under any of the ICANN dispute resolution policies). And
if NAF contacts registrants, to what extent do you/can you/ do you need to
verify the accuracy of WHOIS information?

Many thanks for your help with this and best wishes,

Lars

 

 

 


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