[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access

[John Bambenek]

Aren't we still talking about Thin data? We aren't talking about PII here.


On 05/30/2017 02:22 PM, Farell Folly wrote:
> Hello Nathalie,
>
> I almost agree with your definition  of proportionality but reticent
>  on the last sentence and need to be sure we are in the same page
>
> >>>This principle potentially avoids having to resort to 'legitimate
> purposes' which cannot be verified for unauthenticated access.   
>
> I always defend the need for legitimate purpose for all requests even
> for unauthenticated access  because I think if somenone wants to know
> who I am he/she must  at least tell me who he is.... Or if someone
> wants to know I do as business he must at least state the purpose..
> This is how I see proportionality.
>
>
> Regards
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> Le 30 mai 2017 19:08, "nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> a écrit :
>
>     Hi Paul,
>
>     In the context of thin data, in view of the opposition of some to
>     allow unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle
>     of proportionality serves as an over-arching principle at this
>     particular phase in our work in order to protect data from abuse
>     while not restricting access.   
>     Thin data must be proportionate to the query, be useful for that
>     particular query. All and any other thin data foreign to this
>     query should not be shared. This principle potentially avoids
>     having to resort to 'legitimate purposes' which cannot be verified
>     for unauthenticated access.   
>      
>      
>     Nathalie 
>
>
>     On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:44 PM, "Gomes, Chuck via
>     gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>
>     Because Nathalie was the originator and was unable to speak on the
>     call, I encourage her to describe the nature of the issue on this
>     thread.
>      
>     Chuck
>      
>     *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
>     [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Paul
>     Keating
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:17 PM
>     *To:* Lisa Phifer <lisa at corecom.com <mailto:lisa at corecom.com>>;
>     RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>     *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on
>     Proportionality for "Thin Data"access
>      
>     Im sorry to have missed the call but had a client engagement.
>      
>     Can someone briefly describe the nature of the issue?
>      
>     Thanks
>     Paul
>      
>     *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Lisa
>     Phifer <lisa at corecom.com <mailto:lisa at corecom.com>>
>     *Date: *Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:52 PM
>     *To: *RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>     *Subject: *[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for
>     "Thin Data"access
>      
>
>         All, per today's call action item:
>
>         *Action Item: Nathalie Coupet and any other WG members who
>         wish to do so to propose to the WG list a new principle on
>         proportionality for "thin data." All WG members to comment on
>         that proposed principle in advance of next call.
>
>         *we are starting a new thread here which anyone may reply to
>         if they wish to propose (or respond to) a new principle on
>         proportionality for "thin data" access.
>
>         Best, Lisa
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