[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access
John Bambenek
jcb at bambenekconsulting.com
Tue May 30 19:33:23 UTC 2017
Aren't we still talking about Thin data? We aren't talking about PII here.
On 05/30/2017 02:22 PM, Farell Folly wrote:
> Hello Nathalie,
>
> I almost agree with your definition of proportionality but reticent
> on the last sentence and need to be sure we are in the same page
>
> >>>This principle potentially avoids having to resort to 'legitimate
> purposes' which cannot be verified for unauthenticated access.
>
> I always defend the need for legitimate purpose for all requests even
> for unauthenticated access because I think if somenone wants to know
> who I am he/she must at least tell me who he is.... Or if someone
> wants to know I do as business he must at least state the purpose..
> This is how I see proportionality.
>
>
> Regards
> @__f_f__
>
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> Computer Security | Internet of Things
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>
> Le 30 mai 2017 19:08, "nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> a écrit :
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> In the context of thin data, in view of the opposition of some to
> allow unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle
> of proportionality serves as an over-arching principle at this
> particular phase in our work in order to protect data from abuse
> while not restricting access.
> Thin data must be proportionate to the query, be useful for that
> particular query. All and any other thin data foreign to this
> query should not be shared. This principle potentially avoids
> having to resort to 'legitimate purposes' which cannot be verified
> for unauthenticated access.
>
>
> Nathalie
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:44 PM, "Gomes, Chuck via
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>
> Because Nathalie was the originator and was unable to speak on the
> call, I encourage her to describe the nature of the issue on this
> thread.
>
> Chuck
>
> *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Keating
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:17 PM
> *To:* Lisa Phifer <lisa at corecom.com <mailto:lisa at corecom.com>>;
> RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on
> Proportionality for "Thin Data"access
>
> Im sorry to have missed the call but had a client engagement.
>
> Can someone briefly describe the nature of the issue?
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>
> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Lisa
> Phifer <lisa at corecom.com <mailto:lisa at corecom.com>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:52 PM
> *To: *RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
> *Subject: *[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for
> "Thin Data"access
>
>
> All, per today's call action item:
>
> *Action Item: Nathalie Coupet and any other WG members who
> wish to do so to propose to the WG list a new principle on
> proportionality for "thin data." All WG members to comment on
> that proposed principle in advance of next call.
>
> *we are starting a new thread here which anyone may reply to
> if they wish to propose (or respond to) a new principle on
> proportionality for "thin data" access.
>
> Best, Lisa
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