[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Discriminatory rds Data Privacy Standards

Sun Mar 11 22:33:47 UTC 2018

Agreed. A policy decision on this matter has been taken already in the negative. Let’s not re-discuss issues already debated to death.

Volker

> On 11. Mar 2018, at 14:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
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> This issue was discussed in depth during the PPSAI (proxy privacy) PDP.
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> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
> Date: Sunday 11 March 2018 at 11:24
> To: sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com>
> Cc: RDS WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Discriminatory rds Data Privacy Standards
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> Please provide a workable, reasonable method of identifying the domain names used in commercial manner amongst the existing hundreds of million registered domains. Please also identify how this determination can be updated automatically once the use of a domain name changes.  <>
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> The fact is that commercial use is content. ICANN does not deal with content except for very small and specific areas. ICANN and registrars have no relationship with the content that is published under a domain name. We certainly have no control over specific uses. 
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> These details belong on the websites, as is provided in the laws in Europe and other jurisdictions. There is no need to duplicate this in whois.
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> Volker
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>> On 9. Mar 2018, at 07:49, sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Private persons (including private persons in a public career or a career of public exposure) need privacy. Why is this notion extended to protect online commercial entities of varying ethical standards? Does Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce have a right to privacy of its Registrant data? 
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>> Their customers don't look for contact information from RDS, but in the entity's commercial web site, but the information is not there. Many online entities operate from behind layers of veil that separate them from customers and enable them to carry on their commercial activity with minimal or non-existent accountability. 
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>> Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce sells millions of air tickets but does not seem to have a building somewhere, and/or does not have an employee with a name. Yourairlinereservations.onlinecommerce takes your money, takes your information without disclosing any of its own, and does not have a phone number or answer email messages (operates through call centers, answers email messages by templates) when you are stranded Midway with a ticket that doesn't work. Yourcasino takes your credit card number, yourpharmacy takes your money and medical data, yourholiday owns your passport, and all these entities don't have an email address, phone number or a building with a person.  
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>> Could we do away with this notion of (Registrant)data privacy where it concerns an online entity that carries out commercial monetary transactions online? That would require us to discriminate between private persons and e-commerce entities, which would be a complex process - agreed. Nevertheless, could we think about this?
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>> Sivasubramanian M
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